GOA suing FL over Open Carry Ban & Under-21 Carry Ban.

[DustyDog]

 

[gnappi]

Sad to see a gun rights org going after a state that was a pioneer of civilian carry rights. Why not spend time and effort on states that have draconian anti 2A laws?

My mom always said, "Pick your battles wisely"

This ain't one.

 

[blair_heavenwood]

Sad to see a gun rights org going after a state that was a pioneer of civilian carry rights. Why not spend time and effort on states that have draconian anti 2A laws?

My mom always said, "Pick your battles wisely"

This ain't one.

I guess we should just shut up and be grateful for the "rights" they let us have?? Nah. You attack where you can make advances. Bashing our heads (and dollars) against the wall in California or New York is not where I want these organizations spending my money.

 

[DustyDog]

Why not spend time and effort on states that have draconian anti 2A laws?

You mean like California, Illinois, New York, and FLORIDA, which are the only states that ban open carry?

 

[sloporsche]

Sad to see a gun rights org going after a state that was a pioneer of civilian carry rights. Why not spend time and effort on states that have draconian anti 2A laws?

My mom always said, "Pick your battles wisely"

This ain't one.

imho florida IS the one simply because i should be [relatively] easier than the last 3 hold outs . They could just put it on an election ballot too

 

[gnappi]

Like I said pick your battles wisely, Florida is not IMO a place for gun rights organizations to go after.

 

[sloporsche]

You mean like California, Illinois, New York, and FLORIDA, which are the only states that ban open carry?

nj does not allow open carry iirc 41 do

 

[DustyDog]

nj does not allow open carry iirc 41 do

It can be like taking a survey... some sources are out of date (just saw one that says that Texas doesn't allow it : ), but... (map & then scroll-box with details a little farther down in the article):

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/open-carry-states

 

[DustyDog]

Like I said pick your battles wisely, Florida is not IMO a place for gun rights organizations to go after.

So you're OK with not having the right to bear arms in Florida?

 

[blair_heavenwood]

Like I said pick your battles wisely, Florida is not IMO a place for gun rights organizations to go after.

Why? Will FL retaliate? The FL government is not your family. It's not your friend. No government is. Are you worried about hurting its feelings? Governments exist to secure our rights and are subservient to the Natural Law, the Constitution, and our will.

Regardless of all that, the notion of picking one's battles is about risk vs. rewards. This issue would present low risk (friendly courts) and high rewards (more freedom). Please explain why fighting for our rights here where we live is a bad idea.

 

[gnappi]

No, suing a reasonably 2A friendly state wastes resources I'd rather see spent on states that have much worse issues to deal with.

Reciprocity, mandated fast approval of gun buys, CCW allowed, mag capacity and AR type rifle restrictions gone.

Open carry to a 2A friendly state is MORE important? Focusing on the wrong issues is my point.

 

[gnappi]

So you're OK with not having the right to bear arms in Florida?

Not the issue it's peeps who focus on ONE issue that's better served elsewhere. I carry and have done for a long time, I no longer need a "license" but maintain it, I'd say I HAVE THE RIGHT.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

… I carry and have done for a long time, I no longer need a "license" but maintain it, I'd say I HAVE THE RIGHT.

You could say that, and you’d be wrong, and that’s why the GOA is suing.

You have a defense against conviction. You don’t have a defense against arrest. You carry “freely” at the will of the LEO who chooses to not arrest you. You don’t have a right; you have a “fair weather approval”.

 

[gnappi]

I hope peeps who read this re-think membership in GOA.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

I hope peeps who read this re-think membership in GOA.

I agree. GOA needs more Life Members.

 

[blair_heavenwood]

I hope peeps who read this re-think membership in GOA.

Yes! Quit NRA and join GOA, FPC, 2AF and NAGR!

 

[DustyDog]

I'd say I HAVE THE RIGHT.

NOPE. You have their permission (albeit free of charge now) to carry the way they say you will carry... or else. That's not how an uninfringeable right works.

Imagine if they told you you have freedom of speech... as long as no one can hear you talk.

 

[DustyDog]

I hope peeps who read this re-think membership in GOA.

Oh, it already has. If they are successful, I will be donating to them for the first time!

This would be life-changing for the armed Citizen. I was arrested once in my life, in 1989, for "open carrying", despite the fact that I wasn't open carrying and had a Florida CW permit!

 

[War-Buff]

I am a GOA member (also SAF) and donate semi-regularly.

 

[DustyDog]

I'd say I HAVE THE RIGHT.

No, suing a reasonably 2A friendly state wastes resources I'd rather see spent on states that have much worse issues to deal with.

Reciprocity... CCW allowed...

If you have the right under the U.S. Constitution, why would you need "reciprocity", "CCW allowed", etc?