Thing might no be what we've been told

[Coomer]

 

[candipogo]

Are you ready surprised ? I'll give him this he knows how to play the game

I agree. It shouldn't surprise anyone who supports him that he set them up!!!

 

[Coomer]

 

[fl57caveman]

Newly Unsealed Doc Reveals Biden FBI Authorized the Use of Deadly Force During Mar-a-Lago Raid

Follow America's fastest-growing news aggregator, Spreely News, and stay informed. You can find all of our articles plus information from your favorite Conservative voices. Judge Cannon on Tuesday unsealed numerous motions related to Jack Smith’s classified documents case against Trump. While...

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[Bay Ranger]

Newly Unsealed Doc Reveals Biden FBI Authorized the Use of Deadly Force During Mar-a-Lago Raid

Follow America's fastest-growing news aggregator, Spreely News, and stay informed. You can find all of our articles plus information from your favorite Conservative voices. Judge Cannon on Tuesday unsealed numerous motions related to Jack Smith’s classified documents case against Trump. While...

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Yup

They were just hoping for a MAGA issue. Only it would have been the Secret Service. No wait, the were warned of the raid. Trump's private security?

WTF?????

 

[ABlaster]

That's a standard policy statement. Warrant services always run a risk of force being used, and the document just recognizes that. It's not a "kill order" or some weird change in SOP's. They are playing on the fact most folks don't know how op orders or policies read to make it sound sinister.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

That's a standard policy statement. Warrant services always run a risk of force being used, and the document just recognizes that. It's not a "kill order" or some weird change in SOP's. They are playing on the fact most folks don't know how op orders or policies read to make it sound sinister.

It DOES sound sinister when “use of deadly force” is blanket boilerplate verbiage for a warrant to get PAPERWORK.

What the hell kind of mentality says “well, it’s a warrant, so deadly force could be needed” without regard for WHAT the warrant is for?

Self-defense use of deadly force doesn’t have to be specifically written at other times; that’s just understood.

So to put it in writing that for this or any other warrant, deadly force is “just fine”, that means the target of the warrant (paperwork, a harddrive, etc) is WORTH KILLING for.

I call BS.

Especially when the person is the most recent former-POTUS and you’re talking about having a possible shootout with his Secret Service protection detail? Over paperwork that everyone is already discussing the disposition of?

WTF?

 

[Gumby Hunter]

So are we to believe that Trump’s hand picked FBI director went rogue and decided to go after him?

Yes

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Yes

More than likely good old fashioned blackmail, by the lizard people.

 

[ABlaster]

It DOES sound sinister when “use of deadly force” is blanket boilerplate verbiage for a warrant to get PAPERWORK.

What the hell kind of mentality says “well, it’s a warrant, so deadly force could be needed” without regard for WHAT the warrant is for?

Self-defense use of deadly force doesn’t have to be specifically written at other times; that’s just understood.

So to put it in writing that for this or any other warrant, deadly force is “just fine”, that means the target of the warrant (paperwork, a harddrive, etc) is WORTH KILLING for.

I call BS.

Especially when the person is the most recent former-POTUS and you’re talking about having a possible shootout with his Secret Service protection detail? Over paperwork that everyone is already discussing the disposition of?

WTF?

Deadly force could be needed dumping your trash or sitting a red light, and sometimes it gets spelled out.

Sometimes people want that stuff in there, sometimes they don't. Judges, attorneys, supervisors all have their quirks about what they want included.

It may well be understood to anyone with common sense, but sometimes the people involved want it in there anyway. If someone REALLY doesn't want you to get that paperwork or hard drive they may be prepared to kill you to keep you from getting it. Think about what's going through the head of an upper-class professional when the Feds come knocking for his hard drive that he knows has 100K+ images of child porn on it. I don't say that hypothetically, that scenario has happened and the dude decided to duke it out instead of go to prison.

 

[BluesBrother]

That's a standard policy statement. Warrant services always run a risk of force being used, and the document just recognizes that. It's not a "kill order" or some weird change in SOP's. They are playing on the fact most folks don't know how op orders or policies read to make it sound sinister.

Is that what happened to Bryan Malinowski and the atf agents that murdered him SOP? Ronald Reagan's 9 words that should scare the crap out of you apply. "We're from the government and are here to help."

Arkansas airport director shot by federal agents dies, affidavit alleges illegal firearm sales

The executive director of Little Rock’s airport has died after he was injured earlier this week in a shootout with federal agents serving a search warrant at his home.

apnews.com

 

[Snake-Eyes]

Deadly force could be needed dumping your trash or sitting a red light, and sometimes it gets spelled out.

Sometimes people want that stuff in there, sometimes they don't. Judges, attorneys, supervisors all have their quirks about what they want included.

It may well be understood to anyone with common sense, but sometimes the people involved want it in there anyway. If someone REALLY doesn't want you to get that paperwork or hard drive they may be prepared to kill you to keep you from getting it. Think about what's going through the head of an upper-class professional when the Feds come knocking for his hard drive that he knows has 100K+ images of child porn on it. I don't say that hypothetically, that scenario has happened and the dude decided to duke it out instead of go to prison.

Like I said: self-defense use of deadly force doesn’t NEED to be spelled out. We’re talking about a warrant to retrieve POTUS paperwork and items for the National Archives.

If there is EVER a time for the “boiler plate” SOP to be tailor written for a warrant, THAT would be it. Therefore, no, it isn’t unreasonable to deduce that what WAS written was written On-Purpose.

They decided DEADLY FORCE was acceptable to carry out that warrant.
On the former-POTUS, at his Home. The nationwide poll-leader for the next election.

When is ANY of this going to piss-off enough Citizens to affect any change?

 

[ABlaster]

I've purposefully stayed out of the conversation about the airport guy. The intersection of not enough info and rabidly held opinions doesn't usually make for good content.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

I've purposefully stayed out of the conversation about the airport guy. The intersection of not enough info and rabidly held opinions doesn't usually make for good content.

Well, a warrant was issued with Deadly Force Authorized because of suspected PAPERWORK violations.

Seems pretty comparable.

Except, thankfully, Trump survived his encounter.

 

[ABlaster]

Like I said: self-defense use of deadly force doesn’t NEED to be spelled out.

What experience exactly are you basing that on? A lot of crap doesn't need to be spelled out but it gets spelled out sometimes anyway.

I've read, written, and served dozens if not hundreds of warrants. The chain of review on those can get quirky depending on who is involved. Hell, I've had a search warrant rejected because the judge didn't like 1" margins and I had to resubmit it with 1.5" margins. That's it, no other changes, so the idea that someone wanted that deadly force language in there wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

What experience exactly are you basing that on? A lot of crap doesn't need to be spelled out but it gets spelled out sometimes anyway.

I've read, written, and served dozens if not hundreds of warrants. The chain of review on those can get quirky depending on who is involved. Hell, I've had a search warrant rejected because the judge didn't like 1" margins and I had to resubmit it with 1.5" margins. That's it, no other changes.

What experience? Life. Self-defense is an inalienable universally understood RIGHT of Existence. Anyone who is delusional enough to think otherwise is, at a minimum, ignorant of reality.

I don’t serve warrants. Never said I did.

Seems like you are making the point: such a “chain of review” in normal warrants, then why would anyone believe that DEADLY FORCE on a warrant for President Trump is a mistake or “just SOP”?

It was there On Purpose. By your own experience, MULTIPLE authorities saw it.

Yet, it still got signed AND carried out.
Multiple points of failure AND blame for that.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

Can you imagine what might’ve happened if the Secret Service decided the polo-shirt wearing body-armored moron with a dollar-store-looking badge was a threat and drew his weapon?

Perhaps that’s exactly what the puppet-masters were hoping for…

 

[ABlaster]

Directly from the article:

"The order contained a policy statement regarding the use of deadly force which stated, for example, law enforcement officers with the DOJ may use deadly force when necessary."

Yes, just like every other day of the week.

The original poster wrote "Oh my God! Armed FBI agents were prepared to confront Trump and even engage Secret Service if necessary." And then they posted a shot of the actual document where it clearly says the engagement would be through pre-established liaison relationships and persons of contact.

This article is designed to get folks riled up based on the fact most people don't know how warrants get written or served and it's clearly working.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

All part of the upcoming Royal Rumble 2024. Here have some bread.

 

[ABlaster]

Mmmmm...tasty bread.