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  • DustyDog

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    The situation over there is analogous to knowing your son is a crackhead, but still giving him more money than he knows what to do with! Something Biden is intimately familiar with, by the way! : )

    And I said previously: Biden had to go to Ukraine, because there is no more secure way for Zelensky to pass him the codes to his and Hunter's new offshore accounts. Oh, and:

     

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    Upon Googling, the truth is that this is intentional misinformation, and that his statement was precluded with the very important operative phrase: "If we lose this war". Which is true, if the Ukrainians lose, the Russians will have hegemonized a historically occupied soviet state which contributed dramatically to their industry and capability.

    Im not sure when people forgot that the Russians are our enemy.

     

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    Upon Googling, the truth is that this is intentional misinformation, and that his statement was precluded with the very important operative phrase: "If we lose this war". Which is true, if the Ukrainians lose, the Russians will have hegemonized a historically occupied soviet state which contributed dramatically to their industry and capability.

    Im not sure when people forgot that the Russians are our enemy.

    Actually, the communists are the enemy, and communism was imposed on Russia by the likes of Zelensky. It was not a "Russian" idea.

    Fun fact: The last time people like Zelensky were running Ukraine, millions were starved and slaughtered... prior to WWII. It's why the non-communist Ukrainians welcomed the Germans with open arms when they arrived:

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
     

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    Actually, the communists are the enemy, and communism was imposed on Russia by the likes of Zelensky. It was not a "Russian" idea.

    Fun fact: The last time people like Zelensky were running Ukraine, millions were starved and slaughtered... prior to WWII. It's why the non-communist Ukrainians welcomed the Germans with open arms when they arrived:

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    your article is a non sequitur

    the soviets were founded in 1905 in Moscow, and the civil war was raged in russia, which at the time included most of modern day, although the majority of the fighting occurred in central and nothern russia. Ukraine took the opportunity to declare independence, and was promptly invaded and conquered. The "millions were slaughtered and starved" is the Holodomor, which was imposed on the soviet state of Ukraine by the official cabinet of the USSR, which at the time was headed by Josef Stalin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian–Soviet_War


    This is old news, but you will of course assume that anything which doesnt align with your own personal views is false, as youve already found the answer you like best. Have fun with that, im not in the business of explaining Calculus to Monkeys, especially when they didnt bother to pay attention in History class.
    Snopes! Lol

    Other sites substantiate the claim, although im sure that you too will decry anything that you dont like. God himself could elucidate Zelensky's quote for you, and you'd contest it on the grounds that you're smarter than an ostensibly infallible being. But I do encourage you to do an independent Google Search, even through your propo-- erm, "unbiased and educational information hub" of your choice
     

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    Actually, the communists are the enemy, and communism was imposed on Russia by the likes of Zelensky. It was not a "Russian" idea.

    Fun fact: The last time people like Zelensky were running Ukraine, millions were starved and slaughtered... prior to WWII. It's why the non-communist Ukrainians welcomed the Germans with open arms when they arrived:

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    I’m with Russia, have been since the start, anyone who has left their protective bubble provided by the blood of my brothers and sisters, knows things are not always as they seem, Ukraine has been a human trafficking hub for Eastern Europe for decades, the biolabs are not new, news and not some kinda propaganda, Putin is cleaning the swamp of Europe if you really want to know, America should support his efforts and help prevent useless loss of life while they clean it up.

    Instead Biden makes threats to Russia yes Biden started it, making threats about using Nukes on Russia… All is not as it seems, the enemy of our enemy is really our friend.. Putin is pulling and asking for the American people to take our country back from the corrupt government that keeps threatening Russia and Russian people with war.

    All is not as it seems. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
     

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    If we are to judge a country for a certain breed of its inhabitant, then its only fair to consider the United States a failed experiment imo
     

    DustyDog

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    your article is a non sequitur

    the soviets were founded in 1905 in Moscow, and the civil war was raged in russia, which at the time included most of modern day, although the majority of the fighting occurred in central and nothern russia. Ukraine took the opportunity to declare independence, and was promptly invaded and conquered. The "millions were slaughtered and starved" is the Holodomor, which was imposed on the soviet state of Ukraine by the official cabinet of the USSR, which at the time was headed by Josef Stalin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian–Soviet_War


    This is old news, but you will of course assume that anything which doesnt align with your own personal views is false, as youve already found the answer you like best. Have fun with that, im not in the business of explaining Calculus to Monkeys, especially when they didnt bother to pay attention in History class.


    Other sites substantiate the claim, although im sure that you too will decry anything that you dont like. God himself could elucidate Zelensky's quote for you, and you'd contest it on the grounds that you're smarter than an ostensibly infallible being. But I do encourage you to do an independent Google Search, even through your propo-- erm, "unbiased and educational information hub" of your choice
    First of all, it's not "my" article... it was written by a Jew, writing in a Jewish publication. And second of all, you might want to look up the definition of "non-sequitur". I said:

    "Actually, the communists are the enemy, and communism was imposed on Russia by the likes of Zelensky. It was not a "Russian" idea.

    Fun fact: The last time people like Zelensky were running Ukraine, millions were starved and slaughtered... prior to WWII. It's why the non-communist Ukrainians welcomed the Germans with open arms when they arrived"

    TELL ME HOW PLOCKER'S ARTICLE DISPROVES WHAT I SAID... unless it is your contention that the Bolshevik revolution actually was a "Russian" plot, and they just happened to hire a surplus of Jews to run the gulags because they were such sadistic killers.

    Zelensky is Jewish, as was Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky... just for starters... and that was the only thing they had in common. Marx was German. Lenin was born in Russia, but laid the plans for the revolution in concert with other Marxists, including "Trotsky" (actually "Bronstein") while in Germany, England, and Switzerland. Trotsky was born in Ukraine, as was Zelensky.

    Imagine if I said "Well, Trotsky was Ukrainian, so I'm not sure when people forgot that the Ukrainians are our enemy."

    Pretty idiotic statement, don't you think?

    Then there was Olof Aschberg, the Swedish banker who helped finance the revolution. And Armand Hammer, an "American" and "Lenin's chosen capitalist". The list is endless, actually:

    Kissinger, Soros, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Perle, and Bremer (four of Bush's "neo-cons"), Blinken, Nuland and her husband Kagan, Alexander Vindman, Gary Cohn (Trump's economic adviser), Kushner (Trump's son-in-law; Kushner's father is a felon and a Clinton friend), Marc Mezvinsky (Clinton's son-in-law; Mezvinsky's father is a felon), Doug Emhoff (Kamala Harris' husband), Alinsky, Emanuel (Obama's chief of staff), Klain (Biden's chief of staff), Mayorkas (DHS under Obama AND Biden), Weingarten (president, American Federation of Teachers), Bloomberg & Feinblatt (Everytown for Gun Safety), Zuckerberg, Page (Google/YouTube), Brin (Google/YouTube), Wojcicki (YouTube), "Jake" Tapper, most of HOLLYWOOD and the MSM, Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Joe Slovo (Mandela's communist handler)...

    38% of those running the "security apparatus" (basically, death squads) in the Soviet Union were Jewish... and this in a country that was around 2% Jewish. Care to explain the monstrous over-representation? And I mean without going to Snopes?
     

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    First of all, it's not "my" article... it was written by a Jew, writing in a Jewish publication. And second of all, you might want to look up the definition of "non-sequitur". I said:

    "Actually, the communists are the enemy, and communism was imposed on Russia by the likes of Zelensky. It was not a "Russian" idea.

    Fun fact: The last time people like Zelensky were running Ukraine, millions were starved and slaughtered... prior to WWII. It's why the non-communist Ukrainians welcomed the Germans with open arms when they arrived"


    TELL ME HOW PLOCKER'S ARTICLE DISPROVES WHAT I SAID... unless it is your contention that the Bolshevik revolution actually was a "Russian" plot, and they just happened to hire a surplus of Jews to run the gulags because they were such sadistic killers.

    Zelensky is Jewish, as was Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky... just for starters... and that was the only thing they had in common. Marx was German. Lenin was born in Russia, but laid the plans for the revolution in concert with other Marxists, including "Trotsky" (actually "Bronstein") while in Germany, England, and Switzerland. Trotsky was born in Ukraine, as was Zelensky.

    Imagine if I said "Well, Trotsky was Ukrainian, so I'm not sure when people forgot that the Ukrainians are our enemy."

    Pretty idiotic statement, don't you think?

    Then there was Olof Aschberg, the Swedish banker who helped finance the revolution. And Armand Hammer, an "American" and "Lenin's chosen capitalist". The list is endless, actually:

    Kissinger, Soros, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Perle, and Bremer (four of Bush's "neo-cons"), Blinken, Nuland and her husband Kagan, Alexander Vindman, Gary Cohn (Trump's economic adviser), Kushner (Trump's son-in-law; Kushner's father is a felon and a Clinton friend), Marc Mezvinsky (Clinton's son-in-law; Mezvinsky's father is a felon), Doug Emhoff (Kamala Harris' husband), Alinsky, Emanuel (Obama's chief of staff), Klain (Biden's chief of staff), Mayorkas (DHS under Obama AND Biden), Weingarten (president, American Federation of Teachers), Bloomberg & Feinblatt (Everytown for Gun Safety), Zuckerberg, Page (Google/YouTube), Brin (Google/YouTube), Wojcicki (YouTube), "Jake" Tapper, most of HOLLYWOOD and the MSM, Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Joe Slovo (Mandela's communist handler)...

    38% of those running the "security apparatus" (basically, death squads) in the Soviet Union were Jewish... and this in a country that was around 2% Jewish. Care to explain the monstrous over-representation? And I mean without going to Snopes?
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    If we are to judge a country for a certain breed of its inhabitant, then its only fair to consider the United States a failed experiment imo
    I WONDER WHY? Jeez, maybe:

    From Alan Stang's "Republican Party, Red From the Start", on News with Views (Feb. 1st, 2008).

    PART 1

    "Many patriots these days lament that the Republican Party has "lost its way" and "gone wrong". It has "diverged" from the fiscally responsible, small government philosophy of Republican heroes like Robert Taft whom Eisenhower's handlers finagled out of the nomination for President in 1952. We are told that is why today's Republican Establishment hates Dr. Ron Paul with such a passion; that they hate him because, like Taft, he is the quintessential Republican. Patriots who say that are mistaken, of course. The reason the Republican Establishment hates Dr. Paul is precisely that he is not a traditional, mainstream Republican, that his platform of freedom is an aberration. The Republican Party didn't "go wrong", didn't "go left".

    It has been wrong from the beginning, from the day it was founded. From the beginning, the Republican Party has worked without deviation for bigger, more imperial government, for higher taxes, for more wars, for more totalitarianism. From the beginning, the Republican Party has been Red.

    Why? In 1848, Communists rose in revolution across Europe, united by a document prepared for the purpose, entitled Manifesto of the Communist Party. Its author was a degenerate parasite named Karl Marx, whom a small gang of wealthy Communists, the "League of Just Men", hired for the purpose. The Manifesto told its adherents and its victims what the Communists would do.

    But the Revolution of 1848 failed. The perpetrators escaped, just ahead of the police. And they went, of course, to the united States. In 1856, the Republican Party ran its first candidate for President. By that time, these Communists from Europe had thoroughly infiltrated this country, especially the North. Many became high ranking officers in the Union Army and top government officials.

    Down through the decades, Americans have wondered about Yankee brutality in that war. Lee invaded the North, but that sublime Christian hero forbade any forays against civilians. Military genius Stonewall Jackson stood like a stone wall and routed the Yankees at Manassas, but when Barbara Frietchie insisted on flying the Yankee flag in Frederick, Maryland, rather than the Stars and Bars, that sublime Christian hero commanded, according to John Greenleaf Whittier, "Who touches a hair of yon gray head/Dies like a dog! March on!, he said."

    But the Yankees, invading the South, were monsters, killing, raping and destroying civilian property. In one Georgia town, some 400 women were penned in the town square in the July heat for almost a week without access to female facilities. It got worse when the Yankee slime got into the liquor. Some two thousand Southern women and children were shipped north to labor as slaves. Didn't you learn that in school?

    Sherman's scorched earth March to the Sea was a horror the later Nazis could not equal. Why? Because the Yankees hated Negro slavery so much? There can be no doubt that the already strong Communist influence in the North, combined with that of the maniacal abolitionists, was at least one of the main reasons. Slavery was a tardy excuse, an afterthought they introduced to gain propaganda traction.

    In retrospect, it appears that because nothing like this had ever happened here, Lee and Jackson did not fully comprehend what they were fighting. Had this really been a "Civil" War, rather than a secession, they would and could easily have seized Washington after Manassas and hanged our first Communist President (LINCOLN) and the other war criminals. Instead they went home, in the mistaken belief that the defeated Yankees would leave them alone. Lee did come to understand, too late. He said after the war that had he known at the beginning what he had since found out, he would have fought to the last man.

    What was the South fighting? Alexander Hamilton was the nation's first big government politician. Hamilton wanted a strong central government and a national bank. Vice President Aaron Burr killed Hamilton in a duel. The problem was that Burr didn't kill him soon enough. Henry Clay inherited and expanded Hamilton's ideas in something called the "American System", which advocated big government subsidies for favored industries and high, ruinous tariffs, what we today call "socialism for the rich". Clay inspired smooth talking railroad lawyer Abraham Lincoln, who inherited the Red escapees from the Revolution of 1848 and became our first Communist President.

    All of this comes again to mind with the recent publication of Red Republicans: Marxism in the Civil War and Lincoln's Marxists (iUniverse, Lincoln, Nebraska, 2007) by Southern historians Walter D. Kennedy and Al Benson, Jr. You must read this book, because it irrefutably nails down everything I have said above and then some. Let's browse through Red Republicans, and, as we do so, remember that the reason most Americans have never heard of all this is that the winner writes the history.

    For instance, August Willich was a member of the London Communist League with Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Needless to say, Willich became a major general in the Union Army. Robert Rosa belonged to the New York Communist Club and was a major in the 45th New York Infantry. Brigadier general Louis Blenker of New York was a "convinced Marxist". His 10,000 man division looted people in Virginia, inspiring the term "Blenkered". Many of his men were fresh from European prisons. Our first Communist President knew this, but turned them loose on the people of the South.

    In Red Republicans we learn of nine European revolutionaries convicted of treason and banished to Australia. They escaped to the united States and Canada. Three or four of them, with no military experience, became Union generals, joining at least three other Marx confidants who already held that rank. Every man of the nine became a member of the Canadian Parliament, a governor of a territory or state in the Union, party leader, prime minister or attorney general.

    Many of these men, not all, were Germans, some four thousand of whom escaped to this country. Known as Forty-Eighters, they quickly added violent abolitionism and feminism to their Communist beliefs. In Missouri, Forty-Eighter Franz Sigel became a Union general and had uniforms made for his Third Infantry Regiment that closely resembled the uniforms worn by socialist revolutionaries in Germany in 1849.

    (continued in Part 2)
     

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    PART 2

    Forty-Eighters who became high ranking Union commanders included Colonel Friedrich Salomon, Ninth Wisconsin, Colonel Fritz Anneke, Thirty Fourth Wisconsin and Colonel Konrad Krez, Twenty Seventh Wisconsin. Communist journalist Karl Heinzen wrote: "If you have to blow up half a continent and cause a bloodbath to destroy the party of barbarism, you should have no scruples of conscience. Anyone who would not joyously sacrifice his life for the satisfaction of exterminating a million barbarians is not a true republican". Heinzen came to this country and supported Lincoln.

    Joseph Weydemeyer had to flee Germany when the Communist Revolution failed. In London he belonged to the Communist League and was a close friend of Marx and Engels. He came to this country in 1851, supported Lincoln, maintained his close friendship with Marx and became a Brigadier General in the Union Army.

    Dedicated socialist Richard Hinton had to leave England. In this country he became a Union colonel, a Radical Republican and an associate of maniac John Brown's. So was Allan Pinkerton, who financed him. At one meeting with Brown, Pinkerton told his son: "Look well upon that man. He is greater than Napoleon and just as great as George Washington". Yes, Pinkerton was the great detective who founded the agency that bears his name. Why didn't you know that? In Kansas, mass murderer Brown enjoyed the support of wealthy Yankees (the Secret Six). August Bondi and Charles Kaiser, who worked with Brown there, were Forty Eighters.

    What about Marx himself? Marx fled to England, where he is buried. He became the European correspondent for socialist Horace Greeley's New York Tribune, whose Managing Editor, Charles Dana, was a Communist. Dana hired Marx as a foreign correspondent. Marx wrote often of his kinship with the new Republican Party. Dana's generosity to Marx kept that scumbag alive.

    Remember that Marx never worked a day to support his family, but did find time to impregnate their maid. Dana later became Assistant Secretary of War. All these people were in place when our first Communist President was elected on the Republican ticket in 1860 and provoked Lincoln's Communist War to Destroy the Union.

    The GOP Convention of 1860 took place in Chicago, a flaming center of German Communism. Many such Reds were delegates, including Johann Bernhard Stallo and Frederick Hassaurek from Ohio and Heinrich Bornstein from Missouri, a friend of Marx. Socialist Carl Schurz was a delegate from Wisconsin. To guarantee German support in Illinois, Lincoln secretly bought the Illinois Staats Anzieger. After the election he awarded the editor a consular post.

    Socialist Friedrich Kapp was editor of the New Yorker-Abendzeitung. He wrote propaganda for the new Republican Party and helped mightily to deliver the German-American vote to Lincoln. With other Forty-Eighters, he was an elector for Lincoln in 1860. Remember, these are just a few examples. You really need to read the book.

    Remember that slavery, for these Communists, was just an afterthought, a tool. Before the War for Independence, it was the Southern colonies that petitioned the King to stop importing slaves into the South. Did you know that Jefferson tried to include in the Declaration of Independence a complaint against the King because his government had forbidden the colonies to end the slave trade? Jefferson's language was deleted to avoid giving offense to New England, which was making buckets of money trading slaves.

    Indeed, did you also know that if slavery was what the South fought to defend, all it had to do was stay in the Union? Lincoln made clear that he would defend slavery and would not free slaves owned by a man in a state within the Union: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so".

    Remember that the Emancipation Proclamation came well into the war. It was a propaganda stunt that freed only the slaves in areas controlled by the Confederacy; in other words, none. Meanwhile, prominent abolitionist Robert E. Lee, the first man Lincoln offered command of the Union Army, had freed his family's slaves long before the war. So, what were the Communists who came here after?

    Republican Senator John Sherman, brother of the monster who Marched to the Sea, advised his fellow senators to "nationalize as much as possible [making] men love their country before their states. All private interests, all local interests, all banking interests, the interests of individuals, everything, should be subordinate now to the interests of the Government".

    Germany was a decentralized collection of independent states. The goal of the Forty Eighters there was a "united, indivisible republic" in which those states would be dissolved. Land and private industry would be confiscated. The government would be transformed into a Socialist dictatorship. These are the ideas the Forty Eighters came to implement here. By the way, that is what Hitler did in the 1930s. That is what the fleeing Communists found so attractive in Lincoln.

    So, again, the Republican Party did not "go wrong". It was rotten from the start. It has never been anything else but red. The characterization of Republican states as "red states" is quite appropriate. What do these revelations mean to us? Again, Dr. (Ron) Paul is an aberration. He is not a "traditional Republican". A "traditional Republican" stands for high taxes, imperial government and perpetual war.

    Dr. Paul is much more a traditional Democrat. I refer of course to the Democrat Party before the Communist takeover, which began with the election of Woodrow Federal Reserve-Income Tax-World War I Wilson and was consummated with the election of liar, swindler, thief, traitor and mass murderer Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I am talking about the Democrat Party of Thomas Jefferson.

    So of course the Republican Party will do everything it can to sandbag Dr. Paul (just like they did TRUMP! D.D.). Expect that. It rightly considers him an interloper who doesn't belong there. Yes, because of decades of perversion of popular opinion about the Republican Party, he must run as a Republican. But no patriot loyalty, and certainly no trust, should be forthcoming, because the Party is a sidewinder that will betray him in a Ghouliani minute.

    Dr. No is on one side. The Republicrat Party is on the other."

    SEE? The problem is, you believed the bullshit you were told in history class! : )
     
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    I’m with Russia, have been since the start, anyone who has left their protective bubble provided by the blood of my brothers and sisters, knows things are not always as they seem, Ukraine has been a human trafficking hub for Eastern Europe for decades, the biolabs are not new, news and not some kinda propaganda, Putin is cleaning the swamp of Europe if you really want to know, America should support his efforts and help prevent useless loss of life while they clean it up.

    Instead Biden makes threats to Russia yes Biden started it, making threats about using Nukes on Russia… All is not as it seems, the enemy of our enemy is really our friend.. Putin is pulling and asking for the American people to take our country back from the corrupt government that keeps threatening Russia and Russian people with war.

    All is not as it seems. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
    Just one more piece of evidence, from 2016(!)... and note that Graham is wearing SIG jacket, and I'll bet that's not the ONLY "gift" he's received from a "defense" contractor! He's a commission-based war salesman who would shit his pants if a firecracker went off in that room!

     
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    Upon Googling, the truth is that this is intentional misinformation, and that his statement was precluded with the very important operative phrase: "If we lose this war". Which is true, if the Ukrainians lose, the Russians will have hegemonized a historically occupied soviet state which contributed dramatically to their industry and capability.

    Im not sure when people forgot that the Russians are our enemy.


    Russia and Ukraine are both enemies of the America. America has no business being concerned with what those two independent countries do to each other thousands and thousands of miles away from America. They want to kill each other and aquire different borders then so be it. That is the way borders have been changed since the dawn of time. It's none of America's politicians business and none of America's military business who wins or loses on the other side of the world.

    If somebody says the word "oil" or "economy" or "United Nations" in defense of why it's America's business over there then I swear I'll lose my nerve explaining how America was energy independent and had the best economy America had seen in decades before the war mongering Biden Administration let this escalate. The UN is outdated and should have been disbanded when the USSR fell. The UN served no other reason politically than to push around the USSR, and nowadays the UN without a USSR bully is nothing if not a provocative escalation to another World War. There's too many treaties and borders to protect that America is signed on to with the UN, when the only two international borders that matter to America are its own with Canada and Mexico.


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