Shooting in backyard in Florida.

[DustyDog]

No, the place I'm referring to was off Krome Ave and basically between Kendall Drive and Tamiami Trail on the west side of Krome.

Yep... so there was a Nike base (way off in the Everglades southwest of Homestead), but...

OK, what about the Krome (primarily Haitian?) Detention Center? Wasn't it in the area you're talking about?

 

[Miami_JBT]

Yep... so there was a Nike base (way off in the Everglades southwest of Homestead), but...

OK, what about the Krome (primarily Haitian?) Detention Center? Wasn't it in the area you're talking about?

The Krome Detention Center is just north of the location I'm talking about.

 

[dkg080491]

I vaguely remember the "Nike missile" story... is this the location you're referring to?

https://www.nps.gov/ever/learn/historyculture/hm69.htm

Nike Missile IFC Site HM-95, D Battery | 40+ Photos | Abandoned Florida

Built in response to the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was one of many Nike missile bases around South Florida to be used in case of a missile attack from Cuba.

abandonedfl.com

From your posts and reading about that center it does sound like you're thinking of the right place. It was only a few brief times as a teenager in the early 2000's when I went so it wasn't any type of facility then and already all tagged up with graffiti and rumors of being an old asylum. Perfect place for teenagers to go scare themselves haha.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Nike Missile IFC Site HM-95, D Battery | 40+ Photos | Abandoned Florida

Built in response to the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was one of many Nike missile bases around South Florida to be used in case of a missile attack from Cuba.

abandonedfl.com

From your posts and reading about that center it does sound like you're thinking of the right place. It was only a few brief times as a teenager in the early 2000's when I went so it wasn't any type of facility then and already all tagged up with graffiti and rumors of being an old asylum. Perfect place for teenagers to go scare themselves haha.

Yeah, that's the place off Krome Ave. I remember it being tagged up.

 

[AeroSME]

You do not need more than one acre... keep reading the statute you were so kind to post.

It's a Florida State Statute, minimum of one acre required. Regardless of space, orientation, backstops, and regular safety requirements always apply.

 

[AeroSME]

In 2017, when I moved to Chipley, I asked a Deputy if I could shoot on my property and was told yes. So long as I didn't shoot at night* or across the road. To be clear. I am between Vernon and Wausau not within the city limits. I put an 8' high berm at the timberline giving me an 80-yard lane. I shoot mainly rimfire.

* I have been out at night picking off those pesky armadillos with 22 suppressed.


Happy New Year

Deputies are not lawyers. Read the Statutes for legalities. Minimum one acre required.

 

[AeroSME]

Deputies are not lawyers. Read the Statutes for legalities. Minimum one acre required.

From Fla State Statute 790.15,
(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:
(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.

 

[AeroSME]

From Fla State Statute 790.15,
(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:
(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.

Come to think of it, it reads more like its about dwellings than acreage so I'm not certain. A lawyer would help decipher this.

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

It's a Florida State Statute, minimum of one acre required. Regardless of space, orientation, backstops, and regular safety requirements always apply.

@AeroSME

You're wrong...

I'll help you out... from FSS 790.15...

(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:
(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.

You, like most folks and cops included, you don't know how to read statutes. Note the THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY part.

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

Come to think of it, it reads more like its about dwellings than acreage so I'm not certain. A lawyer would help decipher this.

No lawyer required... I do this for a living.

This law is nothing more than a firearms centric Culpable Negligence law that was passed to appease ignorant anti 2nd folks. It's no different in essence than FSS 784.05 except it's focused on firearms discharging specifically.

 

[sloporsche]

@AeroSME

You're wrong... people like you should not post.

I'll help you out... from FSS 790.15...

(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:
(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.

You, like most folks and cops included, you don't know how to read statutes. Note the THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY part.

reasonable foreseeable risk. Go outside ones backdoor and look for a dwelling ,road ,powerlines ,propane tank , dog house ,grampas 64 ford f100 etc that is just common sense next look left and right 90 degrees for occupied dwellings [aka neighbors ] that is common courtesy . dont have any of that stuff ? invite me over and lets blast the targets/woods up with some mag dumps

 

[AeroSME]

No lawyer required... I do this for a living.

This law is nothing more than a firearms centric Culpable Negligence law that was passed to appease ignorant anti 2nd folks. It's no different in essence than FSS 784.05 except it's focused on firearms discharging specifically.

Thanks for helping me (us) out on that.

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

reasonable foreseeable risk. Go outside ones backdoor and look for a dwelling ,road ,powerlines ,propane tank , dog house ,grampas 64 ford f100 etc that is just common sense next look left and right 90 degrees for occupied dwellings [aka neighbors ] that is common courtesy . dont have any of that stuff ? invite me over and lets blast the targets/woods up with some mag dumps

Just have a way to catch your projectiles… that’s all that’s necessary.

Florida has this law, in part, to make sure local governments don’t overstep their authority when it comes to restricting YOUR rights, you should be thankful for the caveat in the law and embrace it.

If you’re safe… the law is meaningless.

 

[Darren0278]

I think we are all clear now after contacting the sheriff and his legal department about my range in Chumuckla. The new neighbor callled on me again but the SRSO got it right and explained it to the man. Yes he's still mad and even cursed at the deputies. If anyone needs it there are a couple legal opinions from the Florida AG that are informative as well. Have a good weekend everyone!

AGO-2011-17.
In sum
1. Santa Rosa County may not regulate the recreational discharge of firearms in residentially zoned areas as the regulation of firearms is preempted to the state pursuant to section 790.33, Florida Statutes.

 

[Darren0278]

Just have a way to catch your projectiles… that’s all that’s necessary.

Florida has this law, in part, to make sure local governments don’t overstep their authority when it comes to restricting YOUR rights, you should be thankful for the caveat in the law and embrace it.

If you’re safe… the law is meaningless.

Spot on!

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

Spot on!

Looks like the law worked as intended… but what do I know…

 

[4mm6mm]

Reading the title I thought you meant that somewhere in Florida there was a shooting in a backyard

I'm sure there was,somewhere.

 

[DustyDog]

In 2017, when I moved to Chipley, I asked a Deputy if I could shoot on my property and was told yes. So long as I didn't shoot at night* or across the road. To be clear. I am between Vernon and Wausau not within the city limits. I put an 8' high berm at the timberline giving me an 80-yard lane. I shoot mainly rimfire.

* I have been out at night picking off those pesky armadillos with 22 suppressed.


Happy New Year

There's always the chance you can get approval to shoot across the road

 

[FrommerStop]

They are lucky that no one has Oswald's rifle where there bullet can change direction in mid air.

 

[Hot Holster]

Yep.

It's a poorly written law, nothing more than a gun oriented culpable negligence law.

Just about every law is ambiguous, perhaps on purpose to allow lawyers and judges to mold it into their opinions and actions.