Bowhntr6pt
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I agree with the assessment...
You, mean like the Catholic Church shuffling problem priests to a new location which is also happening right now. I've never heard you speak out against it so you must be guilty and condone it.
My point Frank is that many of them don't like it, but speaking out very well could be a death sentence. It's all well and good to pontificate what they should or shouldn't do, but until you have a real threat of death for speaking it doesn't mean much. Zealots which aren't limited to religion are pretty much all the same whether they be Muslim, Christian, Threeper, Sovereign, Democrat, KKK, Republican, Libertarian, Hells Angels, Outlaws, or Mongals. A zealots mind doesn't process things the same as the rest of us.
My point isn't that Muslims are good and have no evil, just that not all want to blow you up, rape your goat, and behead you. Not even the majority of them in my experience think that way and saying they can't be good Americans is silly.
Define "good American"; ask 10 people from 10 different zealot factions and I would be willing to bet you get at a minimum 10 different answers and the primary reason they would be different is there will be one part of their list basically says if you don't agree with their point of view you can't be a "good American" and therefore are the enemy. I've seen it on here and other forums with the threeper movement just to name one. It's the reason I avoid all zealot movements like the plague; group think isn't my thing because I don't need others to reinforce my beliefs.
When I see footage of these moderates in gun battles with radicals then I'll relax a little.
So I guess someone forgot to tell the 95% Muslim majority Jordanians who have religious freedom written into their constitution and recently rolled out the red carpet for Pope Francis about this intolerance mandated by their God. Notice the billboard off King Abdullah II and Pope Francis shaking hands on display in Jordan surrounded by Jordanian and Vatican flags. No riots or outrage. Not all or even the majority of Muslims have such a radical interpretation of their scripture.
As a Christian I can emphatically state that the Biblical literalist and earth is 6000 years old crowd do not speak for me or the majority of other educated Christians. Neither do the outspoken cultural warriors who advocate a "Christian" based government. It must be that crowd and their black & white mentality who also assume to know more about Islam than theologians with PHD's. But no, redneck Bubba's pastor told him so and those with another viewpoint are just part of Obama's liberal and Muslim agenda. Everyone is in on it even those who worked in government long before Obama took office. I'm no Obama fan but the ODS has reached levels higher than the left afflicted with BDS. ODS = Obama Derangement Syndrome.
I have serious issues with how he has handled the economy and 2nd amendment issues but under no objective viewpoint can it be said that he hasn't been willing to go after Islamist radicals while trying to honor the American public's overwhelming wish to not be in large protracted ground wars in the mid-east.
So all of the Marine Corps down to a man wants this message to roll across America huh ......okay sure they do. Because the brave warriors who have seen 7 or 8 deployments and missed watching their kids grow up just can't wait to once again leave their families, be in a hot sandy shithole, and get into an all out Holy War with over a billon people. How do those of you calling for an all out Holy War think it would work? Just nuke em, bomb em, or gun em down wherever you see them anywhere on the Globe? Ready to up the ante and show Hitler what true genocide looks like I suppose.
You people calling for a modern crusade are fucking nuts and thank God are a small minority. When a clear threat like Al Qaeda or Isis presents it's self we deal with it but no overarching holy wars on entire populations. I shouldn't even have commented on this and am probably dumber for it and no better off but good grief. I can't sit by and watch bat shit crazy delusional rhetoric be spewed by those also representing gun rights and not at least try to present another point of view in this community. Once the left can convince the majority of voters that the majority of gun enthusiast think like you guys we will be lucky to legally own single shot break open shotguns.
How bout a little consistency in the following the Constitution. These men were smart and learned from the mistakes of history in writing the Constitution. Separation of Church and State is every bit as crystal clear as the 2nd amendment. Both are fundamental principles vital to the preservation of freedom and justice.
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" Separation of Church and State is every bit as crystal clear as the 2nd amendment" These words do not exist in the Constitution. They are from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote. The meaning is always twisted by the Left as well. This statement however is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..." The goal was to not have a " Government " religion , and to let people worship any way they wanted. Part of the First Amendment .
But to the subject at hand. I have lived amoung these " Peaceful" people for several tours and knowing what I know and seeing how they act and reading about what they continue to do, I just can't trust ANY of them. Stats are stats. Math is an exact science.
Fletch! It's not about going to war against them.....it's about "The need to know". Not to worry though, they'll soon be in a neighborhood near you!
Check out the environment around Detroit!
So I guess someone forgot to tell the 95% Muslim majority Jordanians who have religious freedom written into their constitution and recently rolled out the red carpet for Pope Francis about this intolerance mandated by their God. Notice the billboard off King Abdullah II and Pope Francis shaking hands on display in Jordan surrounded by Jordanian and Vatican flags. No riots or outrage. Not all or even the majority of Muslims have such a radical interpretation of their scripture.
As a Christian I can emphatically state that the Biblical literalist and earth is 6000 years old crowd do not speak for me or the majority of other educated Christians. Neither do the outspoken cultural warriors who advocate a "Christian" based government. It must be that crowd and their black & white mentality who also assume to know more about Islam than theologians with PHD's. But no, redneck Bubba's pastor told him so and those with another viewpoint are just part of Obama's liberal and Muslim agenda. Everyone is in on it even those who worked in government long before Obama took office. I'm no Obama fan but the ODS has reached levels higher than the left afflicted with BDS. ODS = Obama Derangement Syndrome.
I have serious issues with how he has handled the economy and 2nd amendment issues but under no objective viewpoint can it be said that he hasn't been willing to go after Islamist radicals while trying to honor the American public's overwhelming wish to not be in large protracted ground wars in the mid-east.
So all of the Marine Corps down to a man wants this message to roll across America huh ......okay sure they do. Because the brave warriors who have seen 7 or 8 deployments and missed watching their kids grow up just can't wait to once again leave their families, be in a hot sandy shithole, and get into an all out Holy War with over a billon people. How do those of you calling for an all out Holy War think it would work? Just nuke em, bomb em, or gun em down wherever you see them anywhere on the Globe? Ready to up the ante and show Hitler what true genocide looks like I suppose.
You people calling for a modern crusade are fucking nuts and thank God are a small minority. When a clear threat like Al Qaeda or Isis presents it's self we deal with it but no overarching holy wars on entire populations. I shouldn't even have commented on this and am probably dumber for it and no better off but good grief. I can't sit by and watch bat shit crazy delusional rhetoric be spewed by those also representing gun rights and not at least try to present another point of view in this community. Once the left can convince the majority of voters that the majority of gun enthusiast think like you guys we will be lucky to legally own single shot break open shotguns.
How bout a little consistency in the following the Constitution. These men were smart and learned from the mistakes of history in writing the Constitution. Separation of Church and State is every bit as crystal clear as the 2nd amendment. Both are fundamental principles vital to the preservation of freedom and justice.
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