Sticking during unload

[Q4Q]

I have a KDS9c, a ds 1911 with an external extractor. When trying to unload a live round it gets stuck, can't manually cycle it. It takes several hard pull/jerks and there have been a couple times I was unsure I would get the round out. Only with live rounds, dummy rounds work fine. If you use the same round over and over, it's gets easier, use a new round and back to the same.

Magazine in or out makes no difference.
Using S&B and Fiocchi factory new 115 & 124 all have the same result.

At the range it fires fine with only an occasional F2F.

It has been back to Kimber once with no improvement. Like to get some seasoned ideas before it goes back again.

TIA

 

[Midnight son]

Take the barrel out. Plunk test in the chamber several different brands of cases and bullet profiles. Round should seat and fall out with gravity. Check for marks on the case or on the bullet ogive. You may have a burr in the chamber or a very short throat.

 

[5lima30ret]

A bronze bore brush chucked in an electric drill will smooth out a sticky chamber. That followed by my old standby lube 50/50 Marvel Mystery Oil/ Mobil 1 10w-30w synthetic homebrew has always worked for me!

 

[Q4Q]

Take the barrel out. Plunk test in the chamber several different brands of cases and bullet profiles. Round should seat and fall out with gravity. Check for marks on the case or on the bullet ogive. You may have a burr in the chamber or a very short throat.

That's what I was thinking! It does not fall out with gravity, sticks in the chamber. Didn't notice a burr but now, armed with this new info, I will give it a much more detailed look when I get home.

 

[Q4Q]

A bronze bore brush chucked in an electric drill will smooth out a sticky chamber. That followed by my old standby lube 50/50 Marvel Mystery Oil/ Mobil 1 10w-30w synthetic homebrew has always worked for me!

I'll have to give it a try. Dunno about the home brew though, I'm no chemist

 

[5lima30ret]

I have been using that homebrew for more than 15 years now on all my guns. It doesn't evaporate and turn to sticky residue like CLP does if it sits too long. A former co-worker who teaches high volume carbine courses for Govt Contractors turned me on to this home brew lube. That's all they use. It makes clean-up a snap with less scrubbing on BCG's and gas keys.

 

[RidgeRunner]

A bronze bore brush chucked in an electric drill will smooth out a sticky chamber. That followed by my old standby lube 50/50 Marvel Mystery Oil/ Mobil 1 10w-30w synthetic homebrew has always worked for me!

I wonder, if the brand Mobil makes any difference?

 

[Q4Q]

I have been using that homebrew for more than 15 years now on all my guns. It doesn't evaporate and turn to sticky residue like CLP does if it sits too long. A former co-worker who teaches high volume carbine courses for Govt Contractors turned me on to this home brew lube. That's all they use. It makes clean-up a snap with less scrubbing on BCG's and gas keys.

So straight up 50/50 marvel and automobile Mobile 1 10w30?

 

[Ric-san]

I have been using that homebrew for more than 15 years now on all my guns. It doesn't evaporate and turn to sticky residue like CLP does if it sits too long. A former co-worker who teaches high volume carbine courses for Govt Contractors turned me on to this home brew lube. That's all they use. It makes clean-up a snap with less scrubbing on BCG's and gas keys.

I’ll have to try this “home brew”….I’ve had no issues with CLP and the newest Gov replacement NSN wise of Radcolube, we get it by the 55 gal drum at work for the C-130J gunships, so no issues ever having too much “lube”…

 

[lil'skeet]

Grab a handful of rounds. As said earlier insert round in chamber with barrel removed. Mark 12:00 on round in chamber with a sharpie. Give it a good seat with your thumb then remove round. Do the same a few more times with the remaining rounds. Be sure to mark 12:00 on all of them while it's in the chamber. Once you get a good sampling compared to rounds and any kind of blemishes from scraping a chamber. That will give you a good idea of the area you need to address in the chamber rather than opening up the entire thing.

 

[Q4Q]

Grab a handful of rounds. As said earlier insert round in chamber with barrel removed. Mark 12:00 on round in chamber with a sharpie. Give it a good seat with your thumb then remove round. Do the same a few more times with the remaining rounds. Be sure to mark 12:00 on all of them while it's in the chamber. Once you get a good sampling compared to rounds and any kind of blemishes from scraping a chamber. That will give you a good idea of the area you need to address in the chamber rather than opening up the entire thing.

Sounds like a solid plan, I'll get after it this evening!

 

[5lima30ret]

So straight up 50/50 marvel and automobile Mobile 1 10w30?

Yup! Makes clean up and lube especially with AK's and AR's. I use it on all my guns including ones that don't get shot much. A quart of each make about a decade's worth of gun lube!

 

[5lima30ret]

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[ChrisC]

Assuming the chamber is clean and it is doing that with factory 115 gr ammo, I’d send it back to Kimber. Sounds like chamber reaming is in order.

 

[Q4Q]

Thanks for all the awesome advice, didn't find any burrs but there is definitely a dimensional issue with the chamber. I emailed Kimber and I'll see where it takes me.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Thanks for all the awesome advice, didn't find any burrs but there is definitely a dimensional issue with the chamber. I emailed Kimber and I'll see where it takes me.

Or just skip the "3rd times the charm" and buy another barrel.

 

[Q4Q]

Or just skip the "3rd times the charm" and buy another barrel.

That's on my radar as well, just hope they will own up and just send me one.

 

[mrjenkins]

I have a KDS9c, a ds 1911 with an external extractor. When trying to unload a live round it gets stuck, can't manually cycle it. It takes several hard pull/jerks and there have been a couple times I was unsure I would get the round out. Only with live rounds, dummy rounds work fine. If you use the same round over and over, it's gets easier, use a new round and back to the same.

Magazine in or out makes no difference.
Using S&B and Fiocchi factory new 115 & 124 all have the same result.

At the range it fires fine with only an occasional F2F.

It has been back to Kimber once with no improvement. Like to get some seasoned ideas before it goes back again.

TIA

Either your barrel is out of spec or your cases are out of spec. This happened to me once with a box of winchester white box