No Mother should need to worry about thier children being shot by an LEO.

[M118LR]

Prominent American Black Advocates have posted that Mothers should not need to worry about thier children being shot dead by Policemen while committing strong armed robbery on the Spouse's of Disabled American Combat Veterans! Just how Sick are we going to allow this virus to disable our US population! If you are unable to control the spreading of your legs, and you can not control the offsprings that sired once you spread your legs, why is it that you think that your Criminal Offsprings shouldn't be shot dead by America's Folks in Blue while committing thier crimes?

 

[FrommerStop]

Prominent American Black Advocates have posted that Mothers should not need to worry about thier children being shot dead by Policemen while committing strong armed robbery on the Spouse's of Disabled American Combat Veterans! Just how Sick are we going to allow this virus to disable our US population! If you are unable to control the spreading of your legs, and you can not control the offsprings that sired once you spread your legs, why is it that you think that your Criminal Offsprings shouldn't be shot dead by America's Folks in Blue while committing thier crimes?

The sad truth is that the majority blacks that are shot, are shot by other blacks and not by LEOs. With police being suppressed, the black on black homicide has dramatically gone up.

 

[M118LR]

The sad truth is that the majority blacks that are shot, are shot by other blacks and not by LEOs. With police being suppressed, the black on black homicide has dramatically gone up.

Hey, they ain't protesting Black on Black homicide! Please allow folks of color to accept Genocide! Let them protest "The Great White Evil" while they continue to eradicate themselves. The amount of protesters shall decile daily. JMHO.

 

[stage20]

It's all a stunt because they want reparations. They don't give a pooh about anyone being racist as long as they get their money.

 

[SAWMAN]

The black people have turned millions of Americans into HARD CORE RACISTS in the last several months.
Do we all not understand this ??
AND - - -> the police cannot shoot anyone. They cannot even protect themselves. They just stand there and get the shit kicked out of them. Read the headlines. --- SAWMAN

 

[OldMan]

It's all a stunt because they want reparations. They don't give a pooh about anyone being racist as long as they get their money.

FACT...............

 

[FLT]

It's all a stunt because they want reparations. They don't give a pooh about anyone being racist as long as they get Your money.
FIFY

 

[OldMan]

It's all a stunt because they want reparations. They don't give a pooh about anyone being racist as long as they get Your money.
FIFY

PARASITES.......................

 

[Duckyou]

We live in a republic. If people want to live somewhere with no police then let them.

 

[M118LR]

Just because the homicide rate in Chicago is up 50% from last year The President has ordered in Federal Agents. Do you think that there are so many corrupt CPD LEO's that the Feds need to clean up the force, or is it a higher probability that there are enough corrupt Politicians in Chicago that the Feds need to take action? (last I knew there were alot if Irishmen on the CPD, it used to be hard to corrupt an entire Police Force.) But come to think of it, didn't Elliot Ness and the untouchables provide a Federal Presence in Chicago during days gone bye?

 

[standles]

I agree with your comment. Sadly I think we are watching the death of the republic part.

We live in a republic. If people want to live somewhere with no police then let them.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

... why is it that you think that your Criminal Offsprings shouldn't be shot dead by America's Folks in Blue while committing thier crimes?

When you phrase it like that, your message is lost.

The police don't shoot to kill a criminal in the act. The police use deadly force as appropriate in the performance of their duties as law enforcement officers. If deadly force is authorized to stop a violent crime, or the imminent threat of something felonious, then they use deadly force.

The LEO apprehends the suspects, collects the evidence, writes the reports, and the prosecutors decide how to proceed. The courts make a judgment and deliver the sentence.

Theoretically, No One should be shot dead for committing a crime, unless it's the result of justifiable deadly force. Or a firing squad ordered by the courts.
Big difference between doing what's an appropriate part of the job versus killing criminals at every opportunity...

 

[FrommerStop]

When you phrase it like that, your message is lost.

The police don't shoot to kill a criminal in the act. The police use deadly force as appropriate in the performance of their duties as law enforcement officers. If deadly force is authorized to stop a violent crime, or the imminent threat of something felonious, then they use deadly force.

The LEO apprehends the suspects, collects the evidence, writes the reports, and the prosecutors decide how to proceed. The courts make a judgment and deliver the sentence.

Theoretically, No One should be shot dead for committing a crime, unless it's the result of justifiable deadly force. Or a firing squad ordered by the courts.
Big difference between doing what's an appropriate part of the job versus killing criminals at every opportunity...

You hit upon an interesting fact of life. Many citizens would like the police to visit retribution on the spot to criminals. But as you so correctly point out the police are supposed arrest those that break the law. In many cases now days they are not permitted to shoot fleeing felons any more. In most of the USA

The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."

When I was growing up, it was not uncommon for the police to shoot a fleeing suspect. It was stop or I will shoot. I have seen police draw a gun at a fleeing suspect, but not actually fire.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

Just because the homicide rate in Chicago is up 50% from last year The President has ordered in Federal Agents. Do you think that there are so many corrupt CPD LEO's that the Feds need to clean up the force, or is it a higher probability that there are enough corrupt Politicians in Chicago that the Feds need to take action? (last I knew there were alot if Irishmen on the CPD, it used to be hard to corrupt an entire Police Force.) But come to think of it, didn't Elliot Ness and the untouchables provide a Federal Presence in Chicago during days gone bye?

From the way I understood the POTUS' comments, the Federal surge to assist these various cities under siege is because the local government is failing to protect the Citizens in new and disturbing ways:
-defunding the police
-ordering the police to stand down and allow rioting and looting and more crime
-allowing occupied zones of lawlessness
-allowing destruction of property (private, local, and federal)
-decreased or outright denied response by 911 due to these policies
-no effective response to the resultant further spike in crime and violence by emboldened criminals

Each city gets a unique solution of federal LEO assistance. Some have agents travel to the city, like Portland. Others, like Chicago, will have more local federal agents re-tasked to help specifically with local LEO programs.

Is it because of "corrupt" LEO or politicians? I think it's more because of INEPT politicians. Their socialist/anarchist policies coupled with their hatred of the POTUS means they would rather watch their city burn than take help from the Feds.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

You hit upon an interesting fact of life. Many citizens would like the police to visit retribution on the spot to criminals. But as you so correctly point out the police are supposed arrest those that break the law. In many cases now days they are not permitted to shoot fleeing felons any more. In most of the USA

When I was growing up, it was not uncommon for the police to shoot a fleeing suspect. It was stop or I will shoot. I have seen police draw a gun at a fleeing suspect, but not actually fire.

Dirtbags deserve justice. The fact that most folks would prefer to see the thug die from deadly force is an indication of how little faith most folks have that the "justice system" will work.

Dirtbag is committing a heinous crime right now in front of you. Right now you have the right to use deadly force to stop it. Judicious marksmanship and shot placement could result in the thug's lethal loss of blood pressure. Some victims would prefer forgiveness and jail time for the assailant. Some victims would prefer a lengthy medieval death sentence for the assailant.

Many folks, myself included, have lost faith the legal system will do what's right. Heck, just the process of re-living the crime, plus the financial and time expense for the lawyers/trial/fees, plus the stress and uncertainty of the verdict, and then the sentencing, then parole hearings, and don't forget the counter-suits in civil courts by the assailant or its family, etc.

One criminal act by a thug ends up costing so many people so much stress... I have zero patience for dirtbag pieces of garbage who disrespect their neighbors so violently.

 

[FrommerStop]

.........................

Many folks, myself included, have lost faith the legal system will do what's right. Heck, just the process of re-living the crime, plus the financial and time expense for the lawyers/trial/fees, plus the stress and uncertainty of the verdict, and then the sentencing, then parole hearings, and don't forget the counter-suits in civil courts by the assailant or its family, etc.

One criminal act by a thug ends up costing so many people so much stress... I have zero patience for dirtbag pieces of garbage who disrespect their neighbors so violently.

The economic costs are also staggering. The typical sneak thief that commits burglary, after repair of repeated illegal entries, thefts and destruction within the home, loss family heirloomsn, insurance premiums easily cost the public several hundred thousand per year. The costs of incarceration per year while not cheap, are less than letting these people run around loose.

Where there is a lack of due process, such costs are lower in regards to repeat offenders.
I have been criticized here for it, but the ancient middle eastern penalty of amputation does cut down on recidivism. Years ago I visited a british museum and saw an ancient middle eastern tomb exihibit from about 2000 years ago that had an extra 7 skeletons on the floor of the tomb in addition to the original occupant. It was explained that these were tomb robbers that got caught. The right lower arms were amputated and the bodies either dying or dead were tossed inside the tomb. To this very day in africa thieves are typically lynched by passer by; sometimes being set on fire.
Me if I can get the thief to leave, I will most likely let them go. I just do not want the hassle of dealing with the legal system that a killing would call down upon me. And if the dead goblin has pigmented skin, then there is the BLM angle to deal with.

 

[M118LR]

Somehow the quote function has disappeared?

"When you phrase it like that, your message is lost.

The police don't shoot to kill a criminal in the act. The police use deadly force as appropriate in the performance of their duties as law enforcement officers. If deadly force is authorized to stop a violent crime, or the imminent threat of something felonious, then they use deadly force. "

So no Mother that teaches her children to listen to and respect the Police should ever need worry about her children being shot by an LEO. But is that course of instruction normal nowadays?

Due process simply works to protect society from future victimization by the same criminal, the current victims rights, liberties, physical well being, and possibly even life are of no concern.

I'm in Florida, so Dirtbags attempting to commit heinous crimes within my line of sight will probably weigh 460 grains heavier after I request Police response. Thugs that make it to the end of my property line in Police custody need to Find Jesus.

As to seek thieves, today at the Big Orange Box 5 $700+ robberies occured leaving out just my door. One Thug even tore down the bars retaining the Dewalt Pressure Washers while employees could do nothing more than watch Helplessly. There is no piece of merchandise worth a Hurt Employee! But any Citizen (non-employee) could legally perform a Citizen Arrest and call 911 for backup, Or vice versa! The price of generators & pressure washers would probably drop substantially. But things shall change should we have a Hurricane. (God Forbid) Shoplifters become Looters during a State of Emergency. Change the ROE's and level the playing field! JMHO.

 

[FrommerStop]

Somehow the quote function has disappeared?

"When you phrase it like that, your message is lost.

The police don't shoot to kill a criminal in the act. The police use deadly force as appropriate in the performance of their duties as law enforcement officers. If deadly force is authorized to stop a violent crime, or the imminent threat of something felonious, then they use deadly force. "

So no Mother that teaches her children to listen to and respect the Police should ever need worry about her children being shot by an LEO. But is that course of instruction normal nowadays?

Due process simply works to protect society from future victimization by the same criminal, the current victims rights, liberties, physical well being, and possibly even life are of no concern.

I'm in Florida, so Dirtbags attempting to commit heinous crimes within my line of sight will probably weigh 460 grains heavier after I request Police response. Thugs that make it to the end of my property line in Police custody need to Find Jesus.

As to seek thieves, today at the Big Orange Box 5 $700+ robberies occured leaving out just my door. One Thug even tore down the bars retaining the Dewalt Pressure Washers while employees could do nothing more than watch Helplessly. There is no piece of merchandise worth a Hurt Employee! But any Citizen (non-employee) could legally perform a Citizen Arrest and call 911 for backup, Or vice versa! The price of generators & pressure washers would probably drop substantially. But things shall change should we have a Hurricane. (God Forbid) Shoplifters become Looters during a State of Emergency. Change the ROE's and level the playing field! JMHO.

You can not kill a thief that is fleeing with your property or someone else's unless they are about to run your over or are posing a deadly threat, etc. You likely can use force to stop a forcible felony. Someone steals your car or Dewatt Pressure Washer and is driving it away, shooting them as they are fleeing is not a good idea. Be careful what you say on social media about killing someone.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html
776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.—

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1188, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 2005-27; s. 3, ch. 2014-195.
776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1) A person who is in a dwelling or residence in which the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use or threaten to use:
(a) Nondeadly force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force; or
(b) Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
(2) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

 

[fl57caveman]

unless an Angel of the Lord intervenes and stays my hand, anyone caught breakin in my abode, while I am in it, will not survive the experience..or I won't, and I don't aim to be the one with a tag on my toe..

 

[wildrider666]

If LEs hands are tied by politicians and can't respond to lethal threats of rocks, bricks, frozen bottles and cans, sharpened stabing poles, bats, blinding lasers, roman candle and mortar type fireworks use as IEDs: they need to tell the politicians they are not going to do crowd control riots/protesters. PERIOD. These shithole Cities "want" to pull in State Police resources to cover manpower shortage (injuries, retirements, blue flu, excessive hours) and put a target on their backs too. Until the Officers are allowed to protect themselves, they can not protect anything. The Feds state they are only protecting whats within Fed jurisdiction, they may persue and apprehend suspects wherever they go/run.

Lawful citizens hunker down in your homes. If your not properly equipped to defend your home and family by now: tough shit! They all know what the 2A is, some have been fighting it for years, enjoy you bed.

Politicians that refuse to protect the citizen and thekr property from riots need to be removed. Seems the dems/libs have quick access to the courts for everything else, they can address it or continue to be victimized mayors, city councils and their henchmen mobs. Citizens waiting for the next election, do so at their own peril.

Martial Law must be declared and vigorously enforced with extreme prejudice. Suspend all bail reform laws while Martial Law is in effect.

Protester/rioter throws an object, he gets targeted; that person holds another projectile or weapon in hand: he/she catches a bullet. I don't mean rubber bullet either. Pop them and let them lay. Put the WARNING in the Press/media. Announce it on PA system. Protesters that choose to be in the vicinity of rioters, do so at great personal risk to their own lives. Rioters that want to shoot will be answered, protester/rioters that choose to participate win stupid prizes.