Legal Sale?

[LowRiderRed]

Is it legal to sell a long gun (rifle) across state lines without an FFL transfer?

 

[Roaster's Gallery]

No

 

[War-Buff]

My understanding is that private sales are not legal.

 

[LowRiderRed]

Thanks guys.

 

[J pace]

You should check with your local ATF my understanding is that neighboring states that is states that share a common border, individuals can sale or trade long guns not handguns

 

[fla kid]

Residents of the states of Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi and Florida can purchase long guns in the state of Alabama. (Ala. Revised Code 13A-11-58)Residents of California can only be transferred a firearm in the state of California. (CA Pen. Code 12072.C & 12048(d)(7)(A)) Colorado:

 

[Little Jack]

You should check with your local ATF my understanding is that neighboring states that is states that share a common border, individuals can sale or trade long guns not handguns

That went away before I became a ffl. Unless you're taking about buying from a ffl.

Residents of the states of Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi and Florida can purchase long guns in the state of Alabama. (Ala. Revised Code 13A-11-58)Residents of California can only be transferred a firearm in the state of California. (CA Pen. Code 12072.C & 12048(d)(7)(A)) Colorado:

From a licensee. What version is the quote because Google took me to a 2019 version that's different than what you posted

Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-11-58 | FindLaw

Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code Section 13A-11-58. Read the code on FindLaw

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May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller’s licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser’s state of...

www.atf.gov

To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

A person may transfer a firearm to an unlicensed resident of their state, provided the transferor does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the transferee is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under federal law. There may be state laws that regulate intrastate firearm...

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State laws vary but fed trumps itETA: states usually get away with being more restrictive

 

[Roaster's Gallery]

This discussion comes up often. Obviously, some folks have bought and sold guns across state lines, believing it is legal. Has anyone ever been charged that anyone knows of? I have never heard of an arrest, or fine.

 

[stage20]

You can buy from a bordering state via FFL. Buy in Alabama, cross into Florida no issue. Now you can do what you want but I always have the fear if I ever get checked for any reason, and the gun was registered in Alabama and now I have it........that looks really bad, like felony bad. I'll pass.

 

[J pace]

That was my understanding too. But if you were still uneasy you could always meet at a local gun store and do a transfer there usually 25 to 40 bucks

 

[Little Jack]

You can buy from a bordering state via FFL. Buy in Alabama, cross into Florida no issue.

As long as what you're buying is legal in BOTH states, you can buy from a FFL in ANY state. Again state laws come into play and may be more restrictive.

Another quick reference.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.atf.gov/file/56651/download&ved=2ahUKEwi8-4vSprz1AhWZkWoFHSczA5sQFnoECDEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0FAOVqHD0hdnAdgJKI3SCk

 

[fla kid]

I knew this was going to start something I tried to call atf but they went home already I will try tomorrow

 

[Little Jack]

I knew this was going to start something I tried to call atf but they went home already I will try tomorrow

Getting a thumbs up from them is a warm fuzzy but unless whatever they tell you is written down and current, it doesn't mean anything.

Was your quote about private sales or buying from a licensee?

 

[fla kid]

they didn't say .I try to go to source to ask . i'll find out in am

 

[Little Jack]

they didn't say .I try to go to source to ask . i'll find out in am

Let us know. Wondering if your source is going to differ from the ATF web site.

 

[stage20]

They are going to tell him it's ok, track his phone and bust him after he buys it. My interpretation of the ATF laws/rules/hokey pokey

 

[J pace]

Have to be careful how you ask the ATF a question if they think you are involved in a sale for profit no telling what kind of answer you'll get. Maybe a question like .... hey I got a buddy in Alabama that wants to buy an old shotgun that I don't use anymore and I live in Florida is that okay.... I'm just saying when your talk to the ATF know exactly what you're going to ask before you make the call and I don't think I would use my home phone or my cell phone ....

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Here

 

[Little Jack]

Contiguous states from 2011 newsletter from the ATF. TLDR... shit goes back to 1986 and the GCA in 68 before that. It pertained to FFLs, not private sales.

Again: No PRIVATE sales across state lines.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/newsletter/federal-firearms-licensees-newsletter-february-2011/download#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%9Ccontiguous%20state%E2%80%9D%20provisions%20of,and%20(2)%20the%20sale%20fully

If your direct "source" says PRIVATE sales are good, I'd ask for references.

 

[Little Jack]

they didn't say .I try to go to source to ask . i'll find out in am

Did you hear from your source?