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    The thin veneer of civilization will peal away rather quickly, and the ugliness of human nature will be fully exposed in short order. Survival of the fittest will once again be the law of the land. Those that mistakenly think the police will save them are going to be severely disappointed. Most police have families and homes of their own to protect, other people’s protection will be much less important to them. Natural selection will decide who survives and who parishes. people that think they are woke, are in for some big disappointments.
     

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    The thin veneer of civilization will peal away rather quickly, and the ugliness of human nature will be fully exposed in short order. Survival of the fittest will once again be the law of the land. Those that mistakenly think the police will save them are going to be severely disappointed. Most police have families and homes of their own to protect, other people’s protection will be much less important to them. Natural selection will decide who survives and who parishes. people that think they are woke, are in for some big disappointments.
    Don't forget the folks on exotic meds. Anti depressants, anti psychotic, blood thinners, BP, and insulin etc.... plus all the dr feelgoods handing out " mothers little helpers" if the supply chain gets cut big trouble for them. Terrible.
     

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    So Y'all are listening to the Scientists of archeology. These folks are rewriting History. Seems there are a lot folks rewriting American History nowadays. Guess those books about Davie, Davies, Davis Whales and America in the National Archives should be burned like they where during Adolf Hitler's times.

    The color of your skin don't make a difference when it comes to actual American History. But the Victor always writes the narrative. JMHO.
    Anyone know what Harriet Tubman looks like?
    Could you determine what a fake picture of Andrew Jackson ( a Dead President) looks like?

    More Americans regardless of the color of thier skin, could identify Aunt Jemima & Uncle Ben than have a clue about what Harriet Tubman's photo looks like. JMHO.

    Things that lead to SHTF, starts with too much National Identity or to Little attention to National Identity. JMHO. Equally responsible!

    If it simply states AMERICAN on your birth certificate I'm happy to hear your response. If you where born outside of America and your birth certificate states anything other than American I'm happy to converse about your families journey. If you where born in America and claim to be anything other than American, serve your Country Silently like those before you that earned thier way into this country. JMHO.
     
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    I don’t know, guys worrying about tanks coming down the street, guys who are going to attack you with flamethrowers! You guys are reading too many comic books and watching too many avenger movies! You worrying about the army coming and attacking you in your house? Do you really believe most officers let alone most troops would turn on the public? More likely they would shoot the people who ordered them to do that and the politicians. If that in fact did happen you aren’t going to make it no matter how much ammo you have. The more realistic thing that could happen is more of these BLM girls of antifa thugs coming into your neighborhood. When a few of them get shot and they see bold it will be over. I don’t think the police are going to be coming after you for protecting your family and home either. That would not be healthy and most of them would side with us anyway. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
     

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    So Y'all are listening to the Scientists of archeology. These folks are rewriting History. Seems there are a lot folks rewriting American History nowadays. Guess those books about Davie, Davies, Davis Whales and America in the National Archives should be burned like they where during Adolf Hitler's times.

    The color of your skin don't make a difference when it comes to actual American History. But the Victor always writes the narrative. JMHO.
    Anyone know what Harriet Tubman looks like?
    Could you determine what a fake picture of Andrew Jackson ( a Dead President) looks like?

    More Americans regardless of the color of thier skin, could identify Aunt Jemima & Uncle Ben than have a clue about what Harriet Tubman's photo looks like. JMHO.

    Things that lead to SHTF, starts with too much National Identity or to Little attention to National Identity. JMHO. Equally responsible!

    If it simply states AMERICAN on your birth certificate I'm happy to hear your response. If you where born outside of America and your birth certificate states anything other than American I'm happy to converse about your families journey. If you where born in America and claim to be anything other than American, serve your Country Silently like those before you that earned thier way into this country. JMHO.
    Now we all know what she looks like. What a mean looking lady.
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    From the movie.
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    Seems like the "how much ammo to stay alive in YOUR scenario" has gotten way off track.
    Perhaps, but many have different parameters for what "Their Scenario" shall be.

    But the bottom line is that those that don't have to expend a single round shall have the best chance of survival in all scenarios. JMHO.

    P.S. She is going to replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 American Currency.
     
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    I don’t know, guys worrying about tanks coming down the street, guys who are going to attack you with flamethrowers! You guys are reading too many comic books and watching too many avenger movies! You worrying about the army coming and attacking you in your house? Do you really believe most officers let alone most troops would turn on the public? More likely they would shoot the people who ordered them to do that and the politicians. If that in fact did happen you aren’t going to make it no matter how much ammo you have. The more realistic thing that could happen is more of these BLM girls of antifa thugs coming into your neighborhood. When a few of them get shot and they see bold it will be over. I don’t think the police are going to be coming after you for protecting your family and home either. That would not be healthy and most of them would side with us anyway. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

    I'm going to side with Mooosie here. We've all written about something like this happening but it's not going to. Only tank we'll see in Crestview is parked in front of the VFW. I doubt if it has any working innards. The biggest reason we won't is because the military does not have the manpower to occupy and control the US population. The German Army in WW2 had a lot of experience with controlling hostile people and stated that it took 1 soldier to control 3 people that were actively resisting. There's about 350 million of us, that's over 100,000,000 soldiers. Ain't gonna' happen. I realize that everybody won't be belligerent but enough will be that it will be like the movie Red Dawn. They'll control the big cities (that will be tough enough) but the country folks will probably only see occasional raids, if that. I do agree that antifa and that type could cause some trouble but that really won't last long if that balloon does go up. All that being said I do urge everyone to be prepared to protect themselves and get whatever they think is appropriate for their situation. I just hope we settle the cleaning-lubrication debate so I can get in on the action!
     

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    I'm going to side with Mooosie here. We've all written about something like this happening but it's not going to. Only tank we'll see in Crestview is parked in front of the VFW. I doubt if it has any working innards. The biggest reason we won't is because the military does not have the manpower to occupy and control the US population. The German Army in WW2 had a lot of experience with controlling hostile people and stated that it took 1 soldier to control 3 people that were actively resisting. There's about 350 million of us, that's over 100,000,000 soldiers. Ain't gonna' happen. I realize that everybody won't be belligerent but enough will be that it will be like the movie Red Dawn. They'll control the big cities (that will be tough enough) but the country folks will probably only see occasional raids, if that. I do agree that antifa and that type could cause some trouble but that really won't last long if that balloon does go up. All that being said I do urge everyone to be prepared to protect themselves and get whatever they think is appropriate for their situation. I just hope we settle the cleaning-lubrication debate so I can get in on the action!
    Germans controlling the population of Russia. It was effective, but did not stop the red army from driving them out.

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    P.S. She is going to replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 American Currency.
    It is just some law makers talking about it. I really do not care one way or the other. Heck put her on one side and jackson on other. One can turn the bill to the side that pleases the best. One could also put Sojourner Truth on the bill. As long the money is still worth the same.
    A whole lot people of Cherokee extraction would like to see Jackson gone even if he was war hero and made sure the Spanish left pensacola.
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    exactly right, they didn't have the people (or the equipment necessary) to get the job done.
    The war killed one third of the population of Belorussia. The Partizans did cause problems. But it was the red army that defected the germans. Regardless there was a blood price to pay the less armed you are the higher. The number ARs and AKs in the hands of american might give pause to such ideas.
    There are people even here, talking insurrection against a Biden regime. That could also lead to bad things.
     

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    " According to an analysis of S. N. Mikhalev in 2000, the Russian Army and Navy was about 4.7 million strong at the beginning of the war. About 29.5 million persons were drafted during the war and about 9.6 million were discharged. By the time the Great Patriotic War ended in 1945, the Russian Army and Navy were about 12 million strong. This number included active service personnel, those in hospitals, and civilian departments."

    The German invasion force was around 3,000,000 men.
     

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    "As long the money is still worth the same."

    A Troy Ounce of gold cost $21 when American Currency was on the Gold Standard.
    What is current price of a Troy Ounce of Gold?

    Somehow the money isn't worth the same to my way of thinking?

    A 20$ bill used to get you 20 dollars worth of gold nearly an ounce, Today 20$ gets you how close to an ounce of Gold?
     

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    " According to an analysis of S. N. Mikhalev in 2000, the Russian Army and Navy was about 4.7 million strong at the beginning of the war. About 29.5 million persons were drafted during the war and about 9.6 million were discharged. By the time the Great Patriotic War ended in 1945, the Russian Army and Navy were about 12 million strong. This number included active service personnel, those in hospitals, and civilian departments."

    The German invasion force was around 3,000,000 men.
    The Germans of the today are not the same as they were then. A couple of weeks ago I was talking to a friend in germany over the phone. I Told him I would like to see the america bases removed from europe. He told me he was afraid of Putin. I saud well the germans are could at fighting. He said not anymore are the germans good soldiers and did not think they could stop the russian army.
     

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    I'm working on adding in a 55 gallon drum of diesel to my sprinkler system....just gotta figure out how to ignite it once I turn it on...I'm thinking some tannerite covered in some plaster "stones" that look natural. I'm even gonna put a stuffed dog full of tannerite to make a diversion for those ATF and cops that like to shoot dogs. Should make for an interesting day it they decide to raid my home.


    note to self, cancel tolite paper rolling of this house...
     

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    The Germans of the today are not the same as they were then. A couple of weeks ago I was talking to a friend in germany over the phone. I Told him I would like to see the america bases removed from europe. He told me he was afraid of Putin. I saud well the germans are could at fighting. He said not anymore are the germans good soldiers and did not think they could stop the russian army.

    No, they definitely ain't the same folks as the WW2 people. I also have friends over there and they say the same thing. They couldn't stop the Russians now, they didn't stop them then either. The Russians are tough. We had a training session back when I was still in the Army about the Russian invasion of Europe. Their plan was to move through the Fulda Gap and head to the Atlantic but it had to be completed in not over 10 days. That was all the resources they had plus their equipment would be worn out. We were trained to stall them so they couldn't adhere to their timetable. The instructing officers gave us little chance of pulling it off. The possible use of tactical nukes was discussed as an option but we knew where that would lead. I'm glad it never happened.
     
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