Developers Are Destroying North Pace

[Roaster's Gallery]

You can’t hide from liberals, they will follow you where ever you travel to. They move some where new and promptly vote for the same laws and rules that they profess to want to get away from. It’s illogical as hell but it’s what they do.

You know FLT, I checked my "Liberal Manual" in the sections regarding following - whatever it is you are, ...anyway, the manual says that you are close enough to Quincy that you should be safe.

 

[Dan1612]

At the end of the day, people need homes, and they’re willing to pay for them. So people are willing to build them, and people are willing to sell the land for them to build them on.
Unless you’re willing and able to buy it for your own viewing pleasure.
It is what it is…

As far as debt being “slavery” I’d have to disagree. Debt is a choice. Some debt can be a way to build equity and long term financial stability, but regardless of how you look at it, it is strictly voluntary.

 

[Raven]

At the end of the day, people need homes, and they’re willing to pay for them. So people are willing to build them, and people are willing to sell the land for them to build them on.
Unless you’re willing and able to buy it for your own viewing pleasure.
It is what it is…

As far as debt being “slavery” I’d have to disagree. Debt is a choice. Some debt can be a way to build equity and long term financial stability, but regardless of how you look at it, it is strictly voluntary.

Taxes are a debt that is definitely not voluntary. But I get where you are coming from. We can all voluntarily go live for free under a bridge. You first! There's quite the growing community under the Pond Creek Bridge, down by the Taco Bell. Oh and can't forget the "fish camp" over in Pace on 90 under the bridge. Hard to not see the camper vans parked under the 90 bridge in Milton on Blackwater River. Oh and all the homeless freedom lovers out at Deatons Bridge free campground

 

[Dan1612]

Taxes contribute to infrastructure we enjoy every day, even if you do live under a bridge.
The bridge didn’t build itself.
SRC taxes are actually quite reasonable.

 

[Raven]

Taxes contribute to infrastructure we enjoy every day, even if you do live under a bridge.
The bridge didn’t build itself.
SRC taxes are actually quite reasonable.

Go ask them if they enjoy it. I have asked them. I talk to them when I pass them in my boat. You can ask me. I was raised homeless. The state took me away from that life when I was 5 years old and sold me to a nice lady on Berryhill Road 6 years later. Ask me if I enjoyed it...

 

[Dan1612]

Looks like sawman and I actually agree on something.
It’s a Christmas miracle!!

As a side note, as a Realtor and LEO, this is a topic I find very engaging, but I’ll admit my views are heavily influenced by my perspective.

 

[Raven]

Looks like sawman and I actually agree on something.
It’s a Christmas miracle!!

As a side note, as a Realtor and LEO, this is a topic I find very engaging, but I’ll admit my views are heavily influenced by my perspective.

I know right. Miracles. Me and you have talked before and you're a great guy to have our backs. I see your point on several things. Just not this one. Land can be bought, sold and developed without raising taxes and without taking $100,000 homes and pricing them at $400,000. The working man needs a place to raise a family too

 

[FLT]

Looks like sawman and I actually agree on something.
It’s a Christmas miracle!!

As a side note, as a Realtor and LEO, this is a topic I find very engaging, but I’ll admit my views are heavily influenced by my perspective.

Money is a strong motivator for most of us. It’s a rare bird that isn’t motivated by it.

 

[Dan1612]

Once more homes are built and the supply goes up, it will actually lower property values.
Taxes would have to be invested in order to build and fund the supporting infrastructure.

As far as homelessness, it’s rare to see homelessness that can’t be traced back to addiction and personal choices. Unless you’re a child, obviously. As a first generation American, it’s hard to see Americans struggle so hard with the full support, benefits, and programs available to assist. When I saw someone succeed legally, through nothing but hard work and dedication, without any of those things (it was different 30 years ago). By working two jobs, 80 hours a week total for 10 years straight, living frugally, and saving up to buy one of the businesses. Eventually becoming a huge success.
Where my family is from, you don’t work, you don’t eat, it’s that simple.
So often I ask people what they do for a living, to make small talk, and I find out they don’t actually do anything. It boggles my mind to this day…

 

[Dan1612]

Money is a strong motivator for most of us. It’s a rare bird that isn’t motivated by it.

If you mean me personally, no. It’s not really about money. If it was, I would’ve gone corporate. However, I have this wired in sense of service and duty to my country and community that I seem unable to shake and is now vital to my mental and spiritual well-being. And I have a soul, so there’s that… lol

 

[FLT]

Yes sir, I included you in that phase, but I didn’t mean it as an insult. Money is what motivated me to work as hard as I did. Some folks say I was just lucky, but it seemed that the harder I worked the luckier I got.

 

[Raven]

If you mean me personally, no. It’s not really about money. If it was, I would’ve gone corporate. However, I have this wired in sense of service and duty to my country and community that I seem unable to shake and is now vital to my mental and spiritual well-being. And I have a soul, so there’s that… lol

Yessir. Amen to that. Live to serve, serve to live

 

[Dan1612]

Yes sir, I included you in that phase, but I didn’t mean it as an insult. Money is what motivated me to work as hard as I did. Some folks say I was just lucky, but it seemed that the harder I worked the luckier I got.

No offense taken.
It’s necessary to a certain point.
I believe the greatest freedom is the ability to be in a position to do whatever you want, that makes you happy and fulfilled, and thanking all who need it, that’s exactly where I am.
But again, as a first generation American, veteran, LEO and Realtor with an Econ degree, I’m mesmerized by what is currently happening in our area. I don’t love all of it, but I do like to think I understand it.

 

[MAXman]

Dante it’s not that I disagree with you personally on any of your posts, but buddy my county said forget infrastructure unless we vote a higher sales tax, meanwhile they are building the courthouse in avalon, sold wet land to make a bypass from 90 to Hamilton bridge, and really wanted that ymca. Taxes ain’t a choice, if you don’t wanna spend 1000$ on a rental on Byrum street. And I pay a way lower rate than anyone in my neighborhood so I can only imagine their frustration.

As far as homelessness, I know a e6 who got stationed in so cal and when he got there his first rental fell through, and he was surfing a couch for almost a year before he could find something else both available and “affordable”. That’s an anecdote, but there’s way more people than houses over there. I don’t think our area is gonna look much different if rent goes up much more, with how many people in the tri-county area still work for an hourly wage. Never mind setting aside/investing for retirement.

And raven is right. Those two trailers, I doubt anyone picks a trailer in nwfl if they can afford anything else. And if their property keeps going up in value, their taxes will increase, and hopefully they can hold on until the bottom falls out and their land is worth what it was 2 years ago. I know, I know, another crash is unpossible.

And if they sell, awesome, they’ll have maybe enough to buy a smaller lot with a crappier trailer on it. People with 6 house, bought under value in ‘12 as investments.... they can sell 5 and laugh their way to the bank. For the rest of us poor slobs, how much my house is theoretically worth is only good to borrow against it(you know, debt).i get it, good for you. But a lot of us don’t share your excitement.
If I sold tomorrow I’d double my money, but wouldn’t be able to buy anything bigger or better with that money. (Course keep in mind, I think the term “starter home” when talking about a 20-30 year commitment is too me, obscene. It’s like calling your first wife your entry level spouse. ) I’m not seeing any bright side over here, just more taxes, worse traffic, and if I’m real lucky worse crime. Who ray

 

[CenturyMk3]

One day all woods will be clone houses.

Or strip malls.

 

[Duckyou]

I can sell your house without you putting a dime into the roof.
PM underway.

Dan is a good guy!

 

[Duckyou]

You know FLT, I checked my "Liberal Manual" in the sections regarding following - whatever it is you are, ...anyway, the manual says that you are close enough to Quincy that you should be safe.

Coming from the chief liberal, great Biden voter Roasters！

 

[Dan1612]

I don’t disagree that tax revenue could be better spent. This is true on all levels, actually.
And I won’t go into my thoughts on the county commission.
But I will say that I plan to move to SRC sometime in the next year, specifically because of the property taxes and infrastructure and if I have it my way, my parents will make the move from Texas as well.
I’ll let that speak for itself.

 

[Welldoya]

I too hate property taxes but what would be the alternative to keep the government running, increased sales tax?
Also, I thought Jubilee was dead?

 

[John B.]

I too hate property taxes but what would be the alternative to keep the government running, increased sales tax?
Also, I thought Jubilee was dead?

Responsible spending, perhaps.

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