SHTF Survival food

[Southalabama]

Never said I don’t plant. I just don’t waste effort on peanuts. This was almost a month ago. They blooming now.

 

[FrommerStop]

I’m good

But if shtf that bad the trouble will be keeping what you have from those that didn’t prepare. Hungry people will do anything for food including taking yours.

Absolutely true. Problem is we all have guns, both the hungry and preppers.
Do not tell people that you have food. My worry is them smelling the cooking. Meat smell especially when over a flame will carry. If there is electricity, a modern pressure cooker is good. I need to find an old fashion pressure cooker that I can use over a fire incase we have no electricity.

I am looking for food that one can have that is not be easily found. Jerusalem artichoke is one. I planted some in diverse places on my acreage and I see that it is coming up. It is considered invasive. At most I may weed it and this fall just try a few out to see what it is like. It will store in the ground and if I leave it alone it is supposed to propagate like a weed and someone does have dig it up like one does for potatoes to eat it. Most hungry people will never recognize what it is. Most will not know what cassava is either and it is like poke weed; it will make you sick if you do not know how to prepare it. I have a few poke weed volunteers that I need to propagate.

 

[Southalabama]

Interested in survival gardening check out david the good on YouTube.

He’s local to the area though somewhat ambiguous about where he lives. He sells plants at the market in Pensacola. He has 300k subscribers.

In a former capacity I was good at finding out things and got paid for it. I figured out where he lives but understand why he wouldn’t want that public. Kinda like showing preps. While I enjoy prepper pantry videos on YouTube no real prepper would show you or tell you. Factor in 300k fans some of who might like to stop by I won’t dox him.

He’s written several books and is into something he’s coined called grocery row gardens and food forest. His goal is for survival living. He doesn’t grow the traditional crops. If you like you can even buy a t-shirt from him with “compost your enemies” emblazoned on it.

 

[FrommerStop]

Interested in survival gardening check out david the good on YouTube.

He’s local to the area though somewhat ambiguous about where he lives. He sells plants at the market in Pensacola. He has 300k subscribers.

In a former capacity I was good at finding out things and got paid for it. I figured out where he lives but understand why he wouldn’t want that public. Kinda like showing preps. While I enjoy prepper pantry videos on YouTube no real prepper would show you or tell you. Factor in 300k fans some of who might like to stop by I won’t dox him.

He’s written several books and is into something he’s coined called grocery row gardens and food forest. His goal is for survival living. He doesn’t grow the traditional crops. If you like you can even buy a t-shirt from him with “compost your enemies” emblazoned on it.

Well David etc can be a pain to deal with and I am not one of his fans, but he knows a lot. But does not have things together so to speak and I do not care for his attitude. I rather follow R. White and his wife on Flomaton Famous on facebook because he is local and we have done some scion and other trading over the years.

 

[5lima30ret]

Any suggestions of what stores routinely carry them?

Campbells Hardware in Robertsdale carries them. They have a lot of other hard to find stuff including guns and ammo

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Campbells Hardware in Robertsdale carries them. They have a lot of other hard to find stuff including guns and ammo

Yep, cheaper than outpost, just don't let em work on triggers.

 

[Ric-san]

Mountain House is my go to for through hiking. "Good To Go" is another brand that has great reviews, but I haven't tried them yet - currently working through my Mountain House stash.

As far as Filters go - Sawyer Filters are my go to as they seem to hold up better then some of the other flow through filters.

Get the 28MM adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

You can have a SmartWater bottle for dirty water, and then another for clean. Just remember to not screw the bottom (clean) bottle tight so air can escape and pull the water down from the dirty water bottle.

For camping I use the CNOC 2L water bladder for the dirty water and hang it from a branch.

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That's what I use - YMMV

I’ve hiked the Grand Canyon several times and used Mountain House and also the brand form REI, both were good and tasted decent. For water I used a Sawyer mini, no issues. Watch some YouseTubes vids on long distance hikers (Appalachian, PCT/CDT trails) for reviews of both food and water systems. Don’t forget that you need a means to boil water, ie again, a system. There’s several from alcohol stoves, MSR pocket rocket, Jetboil, etc. Part of the “system” you need to have for the dehydrated food…best of luck.Jetboils/Pocket Rocket need a fuel canister. Yes you can also go old school and start a Boy Scout style camp fire…

 

[RackinRay]

A twig stove is pretty effective, as long as there is adequate fuel in the area. One that creates a second burn effect would have a low to no smoke. Lots of videos on how to make one, or snag online from China.

 

[Southalabama]

Well David etc can be a pain to deal with and I am not one of his fans, but he knows a lot. But does not have things together so to speak and I do not care for his attitude. I rather follow R. White and his wife on Flomaton Famous on facebook because he is local and we have done some scion and other trading over the years.

David is local too. Not gonna dox him.

Neither appear to be born and raised southerners. Bless their hearts.

 

[FrommerStop]

David is local too. Not gonna dox him.

Neither appear to be born and raised southerners. Bless their hearts.

David may be local now, but if he does not have anything to trade, sell, or whatever then I have little interest in his exact location.
Randall is ex-military and for awhile he was in gulf breeze. Now he has enough land to expand and build a nursery. I gave him a lot of European type pear scion and got some leconte pear scion and a couple of mulberries.

 

[Southalabama]

David may be local now, but if he does not have anything to trade, sell, or whatever then I have little interest in his exact location.
Randall is ex-military and for awhile he was in gulf breeze. Now he has enough land to expand and build a nursery. I gave him a lot of European type pear scion and got some leconte pear scion and a couple of mulberries.

David gone big time with books and personal appearances. He sells at the market.

 

[FrommerStop]

David gone big time with books and personal appearances. He sells at the market.

Definitely less interested.
I would like to get some cassava stalks of a cassava variety that he was bragging about.
At the moment a little too busy for markets at the moment.

 

[M60Gunner]

Yeah my wife is a fan of his. She makes me call Bill Finch on the radio quite often for tips and answers also. Everything we have is growing like crazy right now after the last two years of basically nothing but sweet potatoes. She made jelly and pies from all the blackberries so far.

 

[FrommerStop]

Yeah my wife is a fan of his. She makes me call Bill Finch on the radio quite often for tips and answers also. Everything we have is growing like crazy right now after the last two years of basically nothing but sweet potatoes. She made jelly and pies from all the blackberries so far.

David the G does know somethings, but at times there is a disconnect. I lookrd up one of his old videos yesterday and he was recommending that people plant pear seeds to get fruit trees and he had very good information on how to get the seeds to germinate.
He tries to dispel that seedling trees are different from the parent. He says is cost nothing find out. What he left out is that it will likely be some years before a seedling pear yields fruit. That needs to be included when recommending that people try it. Years of waiting is a cost vs going to a nursery and of course paying money up front to get something that you know what it is.
I have enough knowledge to see through BS and so I can benefit from what he has to says by gleaming the wheat from the chaff.
MikeA1 formerly of a 1911 forum sent me some veggie seeds that are doing very well. So this seems to be a good year to grow things for me too. This year I am doing an experiment and planting my tomatoes directly in the ground. They have shot up real fast. I am waiting to see if they get disease or not that for me looks like bronze coloration of the veins. These are seeds that he collected himself. Couple of tomato varieties, peppers, sour melon. Just an experiment to see how they do with minimal input this year.
I will also plant some (4 stalks) of sugar cane, cassava (two stalks now), sweet potatoes, and even peanuts regardless of S. Alabam's thoughts just to see what really will take off. I have not even fenced the dogs out of the little patch.
Planted a chicago hardy fig, a currant bush, a couple of more blue berries, lus others. Grafted a chickasaw plum to act as pollinator for one that needed it, and so on. Main thing is removing more trees to allow sunlight in. I even have some paw paws growing.

 

[Southalabama]

Plant Sale - Saturday, May 4th in Pensacola - Come and Say Hi! | The Survival Gardener

On Saturday, May 4th, our booth will be at the Plaza Ferdinand in downtown…

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[FrommerStop]

Plant Sale - Saturday, May 4th in Pensacola - Come and Say Hi! | The Survival Gardener

On Saturday, May 4th, our booth will be at the Plaza Ferdinand in downtown…

thesurvivalgardener.com

Thanks for the website address. Maybe next year I will look him up. I am full up with what I need for this year.

 

[Raven]

Kudzu and fishing string are all you need on the Gulf Coast. Agriculture will fail and all the survivors will be hunter-gatherers. Or cannibals. Better brush up on your primitive skills now while you have the luxury of doing so.
Knowledge weighs nothing

kudzu root benefits - Google Search

 

[Southalabama]

Kudzu and fishing string are all you need on the Gulf Coast. Agriculture will fail and all the survivors will be hunter-gatherers. Or cannibals. Better brush up on your primitive skills now while you have the luxury of doing so.
Knowledge weighs nothing

kudzu root benefits - Google Search

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Let me know how that works. I might have to go cannibal.

Seriously though I’d be eating a lot of fish.

 

[5lima30ret]

In South Baldwin county you could survive pretty well with a cast net and a couple commercial type crab traps. Low tech and very reliable in our area. That coupled with the berry bushes and citrus and pecan trees around my house I'm not going to be very hungry! There's plenty of squirrels as well but they remind me of monkey during my all expense paid tour of Latin America in the 80's

 

[Southalabama]

Here’s a recipe for Rebel

Cooking with Crow Meat: A Recipe for "Blackbird" Pie

Early this fall, OL's Content Editor, Alex Robinson, spent some time in Southern Minnesota hunting crows. When he returned from the field, he handed off three dressed breasts to me and said, "I dare you to make these taste good." After a little research (which of course included the origins of...

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