Muzzleloading T/C shockwave issues

[Russthemuss]

So i am new to muzzleloading. I have done alot of reading and i bought myself a cva wolf after killing two great bucks at 120 yards and 95 yards. With a buddies rifle
I got his exact setup down to powder and rounds i was so impressed.
Well when i hit the range i started at 50 yards and the first round was right and high. Cleaned the barrel made adjustments and fired again right where i wanted to be.
Moved to 100 and the rounds were all over the place cleaning between every shot.
When i really looked at the ammo the sabos the shockwave came with were the blue ones and i could not even push the round to the bottom of the sabbot without it flowering.
I was shooting 100gr of powder and and a 200gr round my groups i would say were around 6inches anyone has any info that will help
Thanks
Russ

 

[no woryz]

Double check you have the right bullet/sabot combo for your rifle…I prefer the black sabot myself, a little thinner… especially make sure you seat it properly snug .. my accuracy suffers if I crush a pellet…

 

[Russthemuss]

Double check you have the right bullet/sabot combo for your rifle…I prefer the black sabot myself, a little thinner… especially make sure you seat it properly snug .. my accuracy suffers if I crush a pellet…

Yes the sabbots are the ones that came in the package. The round is a .40 i just dont understand why they would make a sabbot that peddles on its intended round. As for seating i run the bullet down until it seats on the pellets. But not forced onto them

 

[Russthemuss]

Double check you have the right bullet/sabot combo for your rifle…I prefer the black sabot myself, a little thinner… especially make sure you seat it properly snug .. my accuracy suffers if I crush a pellet…

From what i read black sabbots are for .451 and .452 diameter rounds

 

[no woryz]

I’m shooting a 50 cal & sounds like your shooting a 45 cal… in a .45 I have I use these… still working it out.. but can’t beat my shockwave combo (yellow tip Nonbonded bullet & black sabot) in my 2 .50 cal’s…..

AEROTIP ELR BULLETS .45 285 gr - BPI Outdoors, Inc

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Yellow vs Black Sabot TC Shock Wave bullets

What can you guys tell me about the yellow vs black sabots sold with TC's shock wave bullets?? Is one more accurate than the other??

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Thompson Center Sabots

What is the difference between the 50 caliber sabots that TC sells? To me, they all look the same, but have different colored plastic holders/carriers. What's the difference? Looking for what will work best in my TC Triumph........ Also, what powder will work best? Looking at the...

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[Russthemuss]

I’m shooting a 50 cal & sounds like your shooting a 45 cal… in a .45 I have I use these… still working it out.. but can’t beat my shockwave combo (yellow tip Nonbonded bullet & black sabot) in my 2 .50 cal’s…..

AEROTIP ELR BULLETS .45 285 gr - BPI Outdoors, Inc

powerbelt.bpishopping.com

Yellow vs Black Sabot TC Shock Wave bullets

What can you guys tell me about the yellow vs black sabots sold with TC's shock wave bullets?? Is one more accurate than the other??

www.modernmuzzleloader.com

Thompson Center Sabots

What is the difference between the 50 caliber sabots that TC sells? To me, they all look the same, but have different colored plastic holders/carriers. What's the difference? Looking for what will work best in my TC Triumph........ Also, what powder will work best? Looking at the...

www.thehighroad.org

Yes its a 50 cal but i was just talking round size not round and sabbot

 

[eglinhunter]

The sabbot is designed that way so it separates cleanly and quickly from the bullet. I use the exact ones you have. I had to get a bullet seating jag and work with loose powder charges in order to get better groups. My gun likes 90gr. best. Find a jag that contacts the outer edge of the bullet only. Next time you load on a clean barrel. Mark your ram rod at the end of the barrel. Always make sure you reach that mark when loading. It can change the pressure enough to create bad groups if your not seating the exact same each time. Leaving a big enough gap gets dangerous with high pressure. The mark also identifies missed powder charges or double loading. Muzzleloaders are no different than rifles when it comes to getting one to group. Yours may not like what your buddies likes even though they are the same gun.

 

[Russthemuss]

The sabbot is designed that way so it separates cleanly and quickly from the bullet. I use the exact ones you have. I had to get a bullet seating jag and work with loose powder charges in order to get better groups. My gun likes 90gr. best. Find a jag that contacts the outer edge of the bullet only. Next time you load on a clean barrel. Mark your ram rod at the end of the barrel. Always make sure you reach that mark when loading. It can change the pressure enough to create bad groups if your not seating the exact same each time. Leaving a big enough gap gets dangerous with high pressure. The mark also identifies missed powder charges or double loading. Muzzleloaders are no different than rifles when it comes to getting one to group. Yours may not like what your buddies likes even though they are the same gun.

Yeah the sabots are blowing apart. I have my ram rod marked already. I am excited though, i bought the bh209 convertion breach plug and decided on 85gr to start with htp hornady 250gr and mmp sabots. I will update once i am able to hit the range saved a ton of money buying bullets and sabots separately.