Congress - bill to outlaw militias - preventing private paramilitary activity act of 2024

[Bodhi]

Taking your freedoms, one act at a time, Congressional style:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6981/text/ih

 

[fl57caveman]

Taking your freedoms, one act at a time, Congressional style:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6981/text/ih

if jamie raskin has his pinkie in this, it is not anything good...except for the nanny state

 

[stage20]

They throw high capacity magazines in every bill hoping something will stick.

 

[Bodhi]

They throw high capacity magazines in every bill hoping something will stick.

Yes. Some troubling broad definitions in this Act:

“(8) PERSON.—The term ‘person’ means any individual, partnership, corporation, company, association, firm, society, organization, or governmental entity, whether incorporated or unincorporated.

“(9) PRIVATE PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATION.—The term ‘private paramilitary organization’ means any group of 3 or more persons associating under a command structure for the purpose of functioning in public or training to function in public as a combat, combat support, law enforcement, or security services unit.”

This Act could be used broadly to snag a lot of folks up in criminal activity, according to whomever is deploying this Act to muck folks up. Think about it.

 

[Cjprall90]

Guessing that would end all rifle training courses?

 

[Bodhi]

Guessing that would end all rifle training courses?

you might be on to something ….

(c) Exceptions.—Subsection (a) shall not apply to—

“(1) the armed forces of the United States, the National Guard, the Naval Militia, any regularly organized State militia, or any unorganized or reserve militia called into service by a State or the United States;

“(2) a group of individuals who—
“(A) associate as a military organization solely for purposes of historical reenactment or study; or
“(B) parade in public as part of a bona fide veterans organization with no intent to engage in the activities prohibited by subsection (a);
“(3) students in an educational institution authorized by the Federal Government or a State to teach military science as a prescribed part of the course of instruction, when under the supervision of a military instructor; or
“(4) members of an organization that is authorized under Federal or State law to provide paramilitary, law enforcement, or security services training or to engage in paramilitary activity, law enforcement, or security services when performing the functions authorized by law and, in the case of paramilitary activity and law enforcement functions, when under the direction and control of a governmental authority.

Hmmmmmm….

 

[Carl]

I expect RINO's will say its good because of antifa groups, the same people who approved of desantis flying to israel to sign more florida hate speech laws. Its funny people talk about civil wars and all that crap but it feels like there's been a war on us for years. A long slow war.

You got to love the wording "To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit unauthorized private paramilitary activity, and for other purposes."

 

[Bodhi]

I expect RINO's will say its good because of antifa groups, the same people who approved of desantis flying to israel to sign more florida hate speech laws. Its funny people talk about civil wars and all that crap but it feels like there's been a war on us for years. A long slow war.

You got to love the wording "To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit unauthorized private paramilitary activity, and for other purposes."

*taps microphone

We've been in a Constitutional crisis (aka war on citizens) ever since the Republicans enacted the Patriot Act back in 2001.

Welcome to the party.

 

[Carl]

Yeah I knew it was a problem in 2001 but thanks

 

[Rational Mind]

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

Guessing that would end all rifle training courses?

How so?

 

[Bodhi]

How so?

It’s a broad act as written that makes it a dangerous tool in a prosecutors toolbox.

Exceptions:

“(3) students in an educational institution authorized by the Federal Government or a State to teach military science as a prescribed part of the course of instruction, when under the supervision of a military instructor; or

“(4) members of an organization that is authorized under Federal or State law to provide paramilitary, law enforcement, or security services training or to engage in paramilitary activity, law enforcement, or security services when performing the functions authorized by law and, in the case of paramilitary activity and law enforcement functions, when under the direction and control of a governmental authority.”

The (proposed) Act goes on to outline paramilitary activity:

Unauthorized private paramilitary activity
“(a) Offense.—It shall be unlawful to knowingly, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), while acting as part of or on behalf of a private paramilitary organization and armed with a firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or other dangerous weapon—
“(1) publically patrol, drill, or engage in techniques capable of causing bodily injury or death;
“(2) interfere with, interrupt, or attempt to interfere with or interrupt government operations or a government proceeding;
“(3) interfere with or intimidate another person in that person's exercise of any right under the Constitution of the United States;
“(4) assume the functions of a law enforcement officer, peace officer, or public official, whether or not acting under color of law, and thereby assert authority or purport to assert authority over another person without the consent of that person; or
“(5) train to engage in any activity described in paragraphs (1) through (4).

Full text, if you’d like to read:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6981/text/ih

 

[fl57caveman]

Guessing that would end all rifle training courses?

the Jr NRA programs? all those kids on the list already...

#4, there goes citizens arrest powers..

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

If we add the term "overseas" and usgi contractor this will silently go away....

 

[Snake-Eyes]

“Everything is illegal, but if you are one of us, we won’t prosecute you.”


Go ahead and pass it. Light this keg.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

“Everything is illegal, but if you are one of us, we won’t prosecute you.”


Go ahead and pass it. Light this keg.

We're behind schedule

 

[Snake-Eyes]

 

[Bowhntr6pt]

It’s a broad act as written that makes it a dangerous tool in a prosecutors toolbox.

Exceptions:

“(3) students in an educational institution authorized by the Federal Government or a State to teach military science as a prescribed part of the course of instruction, when under the supervision of a military instructor; or

“(4) members of an organization that is authorized under Federal or State law to provide paramilitary, law enforcement, or security services training or to engage in paramilitary activity, law enforcement, or security services when performing the functions authorized by law and, in the case of paramilitary activity and law enforcement functions, when under the direction and control of a governmental authority.”

The (proposed) Act goes on to outline paramilitary activity:

Unauthorized private paramilitary activity
“(a) Offense.—It shall be unlawful to knowingly, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), while acting as part of or on behalf of a private paramilitary organization and armed with a firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or other dangerous weapon—
“(1) publically patrol, drill, or engage in techniques capable of causing bodily injury or death;
“(2) interfere with, interrupt, or attempt to interfere with or interrupt government operations or a government proceeding;
“(3) interfere with or intimidate another person in that person's exercise of any right under the Constitution of the United States;
“(4) assume the functions of a law enforcement officer, peace officer, or public official, whether or not acting under color of law, and thereby assert authority or purport to assert authority over another person without the consent of that person; or
“(5) train to engage in any activity described in paragraphs (1) through (4).

Full text, if you’d like to read:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6981/text/ih

So how does rifle training for safety and self defense fit?

It doesn’t.

 

[MarkJ]

So how does rifle training for safety and self defense fit?

It doesn’t.

" Rifle training for safety and self defense" could easily be interpreted by far left prosecutors as "other purposes" as stated in the line below:

"To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit unauthorized private paramilitary activity, and for other purposes."

This is a terrible piece of legislation.

 

[Bodhi]

" Rifle training for safety and self defense" could easily be interpreted by far left prosecutors as "other purposes" as stated in the line below:

"To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit unauthorized private paramilitary activity, and for other purposes."

This is a terrible piece of legislation.

Exactly. As I said in another post, its a dangerous tool in the hands of prosecutors.