My sentiments as well, not enough to make me leave, but newer staff with more restrictions certainly gives it a different feel.Range 2 has been due for awhile. The roof was wore out.
Something changed in the last few months. I used to be able to go sign in. BS with the RSO then go shoot without having to deal with anybody. It's getting busier and more restrictive. A couple of "have you seen this member?" flyers up, no shooting in front of the line, cameras on the range etc. It's starting to kind of feel like more of a public range.
The PRPC is a great place with a waiting list. One must never assume because we are better we do not have to be alert.The "at PRPC" things you mentioned,including cops fireing full auto,took place a long time ago.
Things have changed for the "much,much better since that time. I have been a member there since about 2004,am still a member,and will be a member until the day I die. I can live with the rules and abide by the rules.Great members and great board of directors also. ---- SAWMAN
went to the ERGR today, been a while.First thing i notice , no more log in book, touch screen now.After speaking with the RO he tells me they are redoing each range.Here's a pic of start of demolition
I for one, would like to see smaller crowds, and I'd be willing to pay a little more.....
I remember prior to the problem with the county the dues were never more than $25 and think in the beginning was paying only $15.At the risk of offending those who couldn't afford an increase, I'd be willing to pay more for a smaller membership total as well.
At the PRPC some one took a .45 caliber either submachine gun or carbine walked down range and fired multiple shots into a side berm
Please be careful about repeating hearsay. I asked the club president if I could examine the "evidence" of what firearm was used in the wall damage. I was given a coffee can with empties. I took them home and examined and categorized every empty. I then purchased concrete blocks like were in the damaged wall and fired various cartridges at them from differing distances and angles, including shooting from a TSMG, longer barrels than a pistol firearms, and even some centerfire rifles to try to duplicate the damage in an effort to determine what firearms could have been used to make the damage and eliminate other firearms from consideration. I believe a 9mm SMG was also used in testing. I took photographs and filed a multipage long report complete with photos of my shot at concrete blocks and closeups of fired primers from both the evidence I was allowed to examine and primers fired in various submachine guns, pistols, and other firearms. I explained the different fired primer marks. I made multiple copies for the president and all board members. Note: At the subsequent public annual meeting, all board members present denied seeing my report except for one who confronted them and said he personally handed out the report at their last meeting (their "answer" to that confrontation was silence). President said he was not at the meeting and no one had shown him my report; I gave a copy directly to him right then; he indicated he'd study it, but neither him nor board members ever got back to me with either a thanks (I did get a thank you from the board member that had handed out my report) or even contradictory evidence or other testing.
Bottom line (IIRC): To the best of my knowledge, the fired brass was not fired in a submachine gun and had no firing pin marks that would indicate SMG firing. Most of the fired brass was fired in some type of striker fired pistol (had the typical "glock" firing pin mark on the primer). The .45 brass was fired in some type of tilting bbl pistol (I.e., as the bbl unlocks after firing, it is tilted downward as the slide continues recoiling back) and had firing pin marks indicating same. With pistol rounds fired from a bbl longer than a pistol, the increased velocity did more damage than what the club's wall sustained. A .223 fired, no matter what the angle also caused much more damage.
Couple of my opinions: Machine gun owners got a bad rap due to non-member deputies doing M16 mag dumps unsupervised (club rules at the time were no extended bursts of automatic firing; MG owning club members were self disciplining by doing no more that 10 rounds, at least in my observations, and had been doing so for years with no problems with the vast majority of bursts of much less than 10, more like 3-4). A conclusion was made about the origin of the damage, and no amount of real evidence and testing was going to change a desired conclusion.