ATF Publishes Brace Rule

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BREAKING: ATF Publishes Brace Rule Final Text - ATF2021R-08F - GAT Daily (Guns Ammo Tactical)

The ATF, after many delays, have published the final text of ATF2021R-08F “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” It is 293 Pages. Let me iterate a couple points here. This rule is not “published” yet. It won’t be official until it is posted on Regulations.gov. This...

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[Anangrypasta]

Welp, looks like we're all gonna be criminals. See you guys in prison

 

[JWlineman]

Here ya go...

Justice Department Announces New Rule to Address Stabilizing Braces, Accessories Used to Convert Pistols into Short-Barreled Rifles

Today, the Department of Justice announced it has submitted to the Federal Register the “Stabilizing Braces” Final Rule, which makes clear that when manufacturers, dealers, and individuals use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches, commonly...

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Welp, looks like we're all gonna be criminals. See you guys in prison

Nah I have no braced firearms…………

 

[Anangrypasta]

Me

Nah I have no braced firearms…………

Me neither, fell off the boat this morning.

 

[Makoshark75]

So, if you register a braced firearm with the $200 Tax Stamp, does it become an SBR and can you then replace the brace with a stock of your choice?

 

[Daezee]

So, if you register a braced firearm with the $200 Tax Stamp, does it become an SBR and can you then replace the brace with a stock of your choice?

Yes per ATF’s Q&A on that question. Oh, no tax during the 120 day registration period.

 

[timc]

What happens when they become back logged with new applications and can’t process them all within the 120 days? I’ve played their games for years and followed their “rules”. Like someone posted above, guess I’ll see you in prison

 

[Snake-Eyes]

So... if you wanna open Pandora’s box, does this mean ANY pistol you can attach a brace to can be registered for free as an SBR?

Not just AR pistol lowers, but also Glocks, Ruger Chargers (22LR and 9mm), etc, correct?

If you 3D print a chassis and attach a brace, you can SBR it for free?

Because then, you can attach a real stock later, and it doesn’t matter correct? Or is there an Overall Length or some other BS that has to match...


^— All of that “forgets” the fact that you’d be registering multiple weapons with those SOBs and they’d have a legal reason to bother you later, but just for academic discussion, it’s a wide net, blank check, long length of rope they would be giving out.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

What happens when they become back logged with new applications and can’t process them all within the 120 days? I’ve played their games for years and followed their “rules”. Like someone posted above, guess I’ll see you in prison

Oh, there’s no way they’d process them all in 120-days.

It would be a requirement to “file” it on time.

The catch is if they can change their minds this aggressively on a whim NOW, what do you suppose they’ll do later once they have everyone’s info on the SBR list?

Right now you can sell a gun and legally get rid of it without any paperwork.

Try doing that with an SBR. Or ten of them.

“It’s a trap!”
-Admiral Ackbar

 

[timc]

I just read the ATF website and it addresses the question I asked above. According to the FAQ, if you haven’t received your SBR approval after the 120 day window, as long as you can show that it is submitted you are “allowed” to continue to possess your SBR

 

[GreeZdLightNin]

So... if you wanna open Pandora’s box, does this mean ANY pistol you can attach a brace to can be registered for free as an SBR?

Not just AR pistol lowers, but also Glocks, Ruger Chargers (22LR and 9mm), etc, correct?

If you 3D print a chassis and attach a brace, you can SBR it for free?

Because then, you can attach a real stock later, and it doesn’t matter correct? Or is there an Overall Length or some other BS that has to match...


^— All of that “forgets” the fact that you’d be registering multiple weapons with those SOBs and they’d have a legal reason to bother you later, but just for academic discussion, it’s a wide net, blank check, long length of rope they would be giving out.

Yep, They know where to go when confiscation starts. Darn NFA.

 

[BamaFan]

Hilarious

 

[Anangrypasta]

I somewhat enjoy the irony that they are choosing to ban pistol braces because they make pistols more effective.... by granting free SBR status that makes pistols into SBRs and therefore more effective than pistols?

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

I somewhat enjoy the irony that they are choosing to ban pistol braces because they make pistols more effective.... by granting free SBR status that makes pistols into SBRs and therefore more effective than pistols?

It's the gooberment, what else is new. Sucks cause I had a kickass 10.5 --- 6.8 makes no damm sense.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Oh, hell what about my hunting g20 and cp33 I used to have??? This is bullshit.

 

[Jdcujo]

Looking at the paperwork side of things look like they're pretty particularly going after ars, the smg type pistols etc.

 

[stage20]

There is no way they are going to SBR anything for free. What about the people that payed before and will pay after the 120 day period?
There will have to be an entire new agency to take care of all this. Maybe those irs agents that were hired will be doing the paperwork. Lol. What a mess this is and will be. It's too much at once and I'd bet it gets shot down.

 

[IronBeard]

Time to explore alternatives GCGF.

 

[Floorguy]

So what I understand is you can not sell an ar pistol with a brace anymore. Will this increase or decrease the value of the AR pistol.