"AR" name question.....

[Runned Over]

I am of the understanding that "AR" means Armalite Rifle", not "Assault Rifle". So why do I see so many for sale posts advertising "AR" when there isn't one Armalite part on the rifle? Should I be reading that it's an Armalite Rifle (AR) Clone? Just curious....

 

[G-rat]

Same thing as a 1911. The AR was patented by Stoner and Armalite but patent expired a while back now. Just like anyone can mfg a 1911, they can also make ARs.

 

[BluesBrother]

What do you call facial tissue? Puffs or Wally tissue probably not, they're Kleenex. It's a generic catch all term.

 

[S_SHELL]

What do you call facial tissue? Puffs or Wally tissue probably not, they're Kleenex. It's a generic catch all term.

Snot paper

 

[Realtor]

Their all Modern Sporting Rifles (MSR's)

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Yep!! MSR!!

 

[Runned Over]

Same thing as a 1911. The AR was patented by Stoner and Armalite but patent expired a while back now. Just like anyone can mfg a 1911, they can also make ARs.

Wasn't the M-16 and another variant patented by Stoner/Armalite and produced by Colt? So, like the 1911, shouldn't it be called a M-16, or M-4, or M-16 chambered in 7.62, for instance?

 

[wildrider666]

Colt actually poduced early "AR" using some ArmaLite parts from the AR15/AR10 buyout in 1959 which included the "AR-15/AR-10" Trademarks. ArmaLite used model designators that started with AR like AR7, AR10 and AR15. There was a notable amount of press known to the gun community (and Popular Mechanics, Lol); a lot having to do with the application of new lightweight materials and submissions for Military Trials (AR10/AR15). Colt owning the Patents and Tradmarks for the AR15 continued to us the designation as required by the buyout contract and they benefited from prior publicity.

The basic Patents expired in 1977 and a few (Charging handle change) later on. However, Colt retained the exclusive AR15 Trademark. We've all seen the proliferation of AR "style" rifles and mfrs tweak their model designation so there's no Colt "AR-15" Trademark infringement. You will see "M4" widely used as that was a Military contract term belong to the public and Colt's attempt to Trademark that failed. AR15 hase come into common linguist usage as a type/style firearm identifer but you won't see AR-15 engraved on a firearm without the company paying Royalities to Colt. Like it or not, Colt AR-15 firearms are the real deal (good or bad based on personal taste) and everything else is a clone of that "style" firearm.

NSSF coined the phrase "Modern Sporting Rifle in part to get seperation from the often negative and incorrect moniker "assault rifle" applied as the meaning of AR predominately by gun grabbing groups, politicians and anti-gun media. The use of MSR nomenclature has met mixed views within the firearms community, firearms industry media often use it but not universally and and the gun owning public use it far less. It's strictly a matter of prefered projection on all sides: if Armalite Rifle AR wasn't bad why call it a MSR? Assault Rifle AR is clearly incorrect and there's no current federal definition saying AR is an abbreviation for Assault Rifle though "Assault Weapon" has been used. Language manipulation will continue to exist.

 

[lil'skeet]

I like modern sporting rifle. It sounds way better than an AR 14.

 

[B52]

Actually AR stands for American Rifle. The name was chosen by Armalite to use a marketing tactic to get military favor needed to buy the new design. Like Paul Harvey, believe it or not!

 

[FLT]

Educating liberals and media personal is the task at hand .A insurmountable task for mere mortals in my opinion. You can’t teach folks that already know everything .

 

[wildrider666]

Actually AR stands for American Rifle. The name was chosen by Armalite to use a marketing tactic to get military favor needed to buy the new design. Like Paul Harvey, believe it or not!

Got a reference on that?
Here's mine:
With ArmaLite, we can go back to the model AR-1 Parasniper. The Parasniper was a Stoner design in 1947 that he brought with him to the ArmaLite Division in 1954, and was further refined there becoming the AR-1 which never went into production. No such marketing hoopla with that prototype's designation. From the Armalite Site "History 1952-1954: "All rifles were designated AR, short for Armalite Rifle." The term "America's Rifle" is clever marketing but not what the original abbreviation stood for. A reference that dates to 1954ish from a main player would work. Lol

History

www.armalite.com

The AR has picked up the term and embraced as "America's Rifle" for multiple reasons, mainly for popularity, sales numbers and definitely n American design.

 

[B52]

Got a reference on that?
Here's mine:
With ArmaLite, we can go back to the model AR-1 Parasniper. The Parasniper was a Stoner design in 1947 that he brought with him to the ArmaLite Division in 1954, and was further refined there becoming the AR-1 which never went into production. No such marketing hoopla with that prototype's designation. From the Armalite Site "History 1952-1954: "All rifles were designated AR, short for Armalite Rifle." The term "America's Rifle" is clever marketing but not what the original abbreviation stood for. A reference that dates to 1954ish from a main player would work. Lol

History

www.armalite.com

The AR has picked up the term and embraced as "America's Rifle" for multiple reasons, mainly for popularity, sales numbers and definitely n American design.

My American Rifle reference is my own creation. It's meant to befuddle FUDDs and flummox liberals that derive their knowledge from commie talking heads.