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    H&K has lived on the legend of the MP-5 for a very long time. Don't know its current status but in the late 90s their customer service was a joke.
    They sold the USP pistols to agencies with an aluminum framed prototype. Parts were impossible to get and early problems were many.
    The UMP replacement for the MP-5 that Customs and Border Patrol bought in 40 S&W had barrel problems after 5000 rounds and were eventually dumped.
     
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    I have first-hand experience with those Border Patrol UMP’s. The issued ammo was pretty spicy. It was a 155 grain JHP going 1250fps out of the 96D Berettas so I can only imagine what it was getting out of the UMP’s longer barrel.

    My problem was during long-ish burst fire the stock would flex, sending your group horizontally across the target. The structure probably could have supported a 9mm platform, but the .40 loaded properly has a hard recoil impulse. I never was a UMP armorer, so I can’t speak to their longevity.
     
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    While I wouldn’t pass up a good deal on a USP, I believe the quality race as it relates to German-specific manufacturers is probably currently being led by Walther and their product line.
     
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    Fear21 said:
    IMO the last great firearm they designed was the USP. I'm not saying they make bad guns, but they've been riding on their name for too long and it shows.

    I still think the MP5 is the best subgun ever, though. :)
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    I can't think of a better-looking one, for sure! I carried two of them for a long time, and really liked them. The triggers aren't great by modern standards but the MP5 design is older than most people think.
     
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