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[LowRiderRed]

She was not involved with the Trial. Organized some protests about it and did some trial monitoring. BP killed one of there own in CT not cops in CA.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/hillarypanthers/

That's all I could find too. Thanks.

 

[tros6t]

It's this simple, a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Hillary. If we get Hillary, we don't just get the worst of two evils, we get the worst we can get and we will all pay dearly for it!

 

[wildrider666]

That's all I could find too. Thanks.

Sniff around the CA huey Lewis cop murder. She clerked for the defense Firm. I didn't search it much. Dems and their cronies purge or reallign negative info.

 

[wildrider666]

It's this simple, a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Hillary. If we get Hillary, we don't just get the worst of two evils, we get the worst we can get and we will all pay dearly for it!

Incorrect, a vote is a vote for that particular canidate. Each vote carries the weight of a single ballot, no more no less. It counts "FOR" a candidate not against the others. Hitlery like trump has to get their own. No canidate has a claim on anyone's vote. I remember all the whining about votes for third party canidates and how it cost one of the major parties the election. What if trump was a third party candidate in THIS election (he kept threatening to do so not long ago): would everybody be blowing his horn so loud? I think not. We may pay dearly but that is the choice of the majority, until the price is too high.

 

[tros6t]

Hypotheticals are interesting but doesn't prove anything. Everyone will vote as they will, even the dead and the illegals, but "throwing votes" only helps Hillary but by all means, throw away!

 

[drew]

Bitch and moan if thats helps you when you consider the "choices" at hand but remember how we got to this point.

Hitlery was a done deal, thats why their was no real challenge within the Dem party. A die hard socialist was never going to cut it but it gave the appearance of a contest.

Trump is last man standing with the Rep tag. Whats on the inside is anybodies guess. Reps had other choices (14 or 15). Trump beat them by bullying, insults while being cheared on by his "ardent" almost rabid supporters. All the negative things that were brought up about trump were ignored while he claimed to be the great one and he and his trumpeteers bashed the other Rep candidates. The others dropped out one by one and here we are. Trump has used the crook, criminal, liar, wall street insider, the Foundation, and all know dirt on hitlery, doesn't look like it makes any difference to the voters he needs to move. We knew months ago which Rep candidate s had the best chance to defeat hitlery and it was ignored.

Trump support has moved him to one of two shitty choices. Trump need every single Rep loyalist to vote for him in spite of the fact they (I) hate him. Even if that miracle happens, he needs hundreds of thousands of swing votes from folks that don't go to Rallies. Even if he gets elected, there is no guarantee what the hell he will do as a newly declared rep with long dem ties. Just like hitlery, he can't do much without the House and Senate, and he has burned just about all those bridges.

I'm not optimistic or enthusiastic. I don't blame trump for being the lesser of two evils to chose from, he didn't get there on his own.

Every presidential election in the last 50 years was forecast as gloom and doom for the U.S. if their party didn't win. Thing get better, go to shit or maintain with minor impact. On man does not a revolution make. Whether he is elected or not, the Peter Principal applies.

This is the most sensible and thought out thing I've read in this 60+ page thread (besides the best, most bigly uuuuge, so-good-you-won't-even-believe-it comments made by yours truly of course. I really do have the best comments, better than anyone else. If you don't believe me - EMAILS! WALL! LIAR! YOU'RE FIRED!).

 

[Famine]

Let's not forget - it's not the candidate that get's the most individual votes, it's the candidate that gets the required minimum votes from the Electoral College if they fail there it goes to the house to decide. That's why swing states are so important - four times the winner of the election did not have the majority of the individual votes.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In each case once decided the losing candidates and their supporters accepted the decision - unlike perhaps anywhere else in the world. I hope we continue that tradition regardless of who wins.

 

[drew]

Hey now, don't you go getting all educated us now....facts are SCARY and have no place in a presidential election.

 

[m4a1sof]

This is still the same country (except now even more left leaning) that voted for Obama, not once mind you, but twice. IMHO not necessarily Trump, but any republican, never had a chance from day one. It's reached the tipping point where there are more takers than givers, ergo you will never have a conservative elected president again. https://youtu.be/NzspsovNvII

 

[drew]

This is still the same country (except now even more left leaning) that voted for Obama, not once mind you, but twice. IMHO not necessarily Trump, but any republican, never had a chance from day one. It's reached the tipping point where there are more takers than givers, ergo you will never have a conservative elected president again. https://youtu.be/NzspsovNvII

I think there is a VERY good chance a conservative will get elected again (likely next cycle)...but the GOP has to nominate an ACTUAL conservative for that to happen - not some reality TV show host.

 

[fl57caveman]

I think there is a VERY good chance a conservative will get elected again (likely next cycle)...but the GOP has to nominate an ACTUAL conservative for that to happen - not some fucktard reality TV show host.

there was conservatives nominated..carson, cruz, perry, Huckabee, all of which I would have preferred, but it is what it is now


against this, how can we win?

 

[wildrider666]

And they claim it does not happen, few get caught, fewer get charged and convicted. They fight voter ID laws and win!

 

[drew]

You guys realize that's camera footage from Russia, right? (this shit has been debunked over, and over, and over...but the tin-hat types keep falling for it)

PROOF :

https://youtu.be/8YsRU0TFQTY?t=51s

Check out the flag hanging in the office on the left side of the frame....last time I checked, no US flag looked like that...now, check out the Russian Federation flag : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Russia

And here is where the BBC reported on this a full month BEFORE that video was posted : http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37403673

Amazing what some very minimal fact checking can uncover.

 

[fl57caveman]

excuse me...........

I saw red white and blue balloons, so I reposted it ...

guess those texas voters voting on machines, all straight republican tickets, and seeing them changed to democrat are wrong too? and the 1.8 million dead voters on the rolls in the us are bogus too?


hanging chads....

 

[Bay Ranger]

You want some insight on why you haven't been polled? Check this out:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/new-podesta-email-exposes-dem-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples


Skew the poll results and watch all of the "half brain dead" voters vote for the obvious winner!

 

[drew]

excuse me...........

I saw red white and blue balloons, so I reposted it ...

guess those texas voters voting on machines, all straight republican tickets, and seeing them changed to democrat are wrong too? and the 1.8 million dead voters on the rolls in the us are bogus too?


hanging chads....

Red, white, and blue just happen to also be the colors of the Russian flag. (As well as many other nations)

And, yes, that's yet another claim that's been debunked over and over and over.

http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2016-10-25/potter-county-judge-nothing-wrong-voting-machines

...I was gonna link to Snopes, but I'll just take a shot in the dark and assume you'd consider that "liberal media bias" or some other Trump catchphrase.

We can do this all day my man...and you can believe whatever fits your narrative best (and I totally accept and support your God given right to do that!)...but facts are facts. Even if they contradict what the tin-hatters desperately want you to believe/read so they can sell ad space.

Trump sold people what they wanted to believe - and, despite common sense, nobody ever bothered to fact check (well, except me apparently).

 

[SAWMAN]

May I Please ask ---> Bottom line drew . . . who you voting for ??? ---SAWMAN

 

[Viking1204]

Our election system is the most bullshit corrupted system there is. Never should one state have more pull in an election than another. The electoral college is a scam, go with the damn popular vote, why make it so complicated and give more votes to the idiot liberals who live in the biggest cities in this country. Our whole political system makes me sick.

 

[wildrider666]

You want some insight on why you haven't been polled? Check this out:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/new-podesta-email-exposes-dem-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples

Skew the poll results and watch all of the "half brain dead" voters vote for the obvious winner!

Great info there. Not covered on the News yet, no surprise. Cut and paste the red link, worth your time.

 

[drew]

May I Please ask ---> Bottom line drew . . . who you voting for ??? ---SAWMAN

"I'll keep you in suspense"