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  • Ricochet

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    Can you elaborate just a little on that concrete pier home idea?
    I have my eyes set on some undeveloped land in Bay County and husband and I want to build purpusefully ( hurricane strong ) but are just researching at this stage. ( and securing the land as first step ).
    Disregard.
    I got the idea from somebidy else's post.

    Thanks!
     

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    You can search ICF and pier homes, or poured concrete homes.

    If you remember the last hurricane to hit the panhandle - there was a single house that made it through undamaged. (Maybe in Mexico Beach - it is owned by a couple of brothers from Tennessee including one nut who came down to scream at everyone about climate change).

    It was a poured concrete pier home with a seamless metal roof and roll down hurricane shutters.

    It also helps to build a closed envelope - as then there is no place for wind to get in/under the roof.
    Thank you so much!!
    I am very eager to get out of Pinellas County.
    I think it is only a matter of time before this place is a target of BLM orchestrated events like these and the population here is too soft and full of apathy
    There is no community which is a direct result of allowing diversity without requiring assimilation into the original American way of life ( Constitutional Values )

    There was a picture of big BLM coaches parket in Ft Lauderdale. Tampa Bay is the next stop North for democratic run insurrection.
    I would rather face a hurricane every year.
     

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    The total destruction of the United States is the goal of the democratic socialist they are willing to kill anyone that stands in their way. Unfortunately they are in control of law enforcement and the court system. They will use Leo’s till they can’t controlled them any longer , at that point the Leo’s will be targeted just as conservatives are now being targeted. Blmers are nothing more than useful idiots, they are rather easy to control and always will be . When they aren’t needed to destroy things a few hundred will be killed and the rest will go back to their useless lives .
     
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    If things deteriorated locally, how far out are you willing to network? Your neighborhood (figuratively speaking if you're not in a neighborhood), your City, your County?

    This is not an endorsement, more something I found interesting. There are already articles painting this as a right-wing militia, but from a little research, I do not get that impression. Quite probably one of those well-intentioned things that could be doomed from the start, but maybe not. Possibly something to keep an eye on or look into.
     

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    Most of those groups are throughly infiltrated by the feds and state pigs, community building is better.


    This is the kind of human garbage behind this revolutionary attempt

    Kyle should be given a parade* for the public service he did to society

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    Will antifa learn not to bring a skateboard to a gunfight? We've seen skareboards used as offensive weapons with success on multiple occasions against unarmed persons and persons in vehicles. IIRC skateboard was use against the guy with bow & arrow (lost), a counter protester with handgun (won) at a statue tear down and now the young man with the AR (won).

    The legality shooting of the three people all rest on the justification of the initial shooting in the store Lot. If the first was lawful, then the following two are self defense from mob attack as he was trying to extract himself from the hostile area. If the first was not justified and the persuers were try to capture/detain a fleeing criminal status shooter: the young man does not have a Right to use lethal force under lawful self defense Laws.

    It's often said don't carry a gun if your not willing to use it within the boundaries of the law and you are able to retain and control the firearm. There are several videos from earlier that show armed people being confronted multiple opponents and not maintaining a safe buffer zone, a few smarter armed folks tried to help keep distance and cover their Six. If someone can reach your gun, they can compromise its use then it's a roll of the dice. The young man may have been initially "targeted" as being thought of as the weakest of the armed people present. Wrong assumption on their part. Call it a rude awakening for those rioters who have used force against LE that easily could have justified a lethal force response. LE has used great restraint in their responses. Armed civilians need only have the Threat threshold line crossed.

    I understand the concerns of deliberately inserting yourself in adverse situations. We choose our battles; therefore, I can't say in good conscience it's always a bad decision. If thousands feel personal responsibility to actively take a Stand but wait for "others" to go first, they are just thousands of sheepdogs that won't do their job. VMMV
     

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    Most of those groups are throughly infiltrated by the feds and state pigs, community building is better.


    This is the kind of human garbage behind this revolutionary attempt

    Kyle should be given a pared for the public service he did to society

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    I agree completely about the local community building.
    Also when I looked at that website on the FAQ they mention an app that wod eneble one to ...

    I am suspicious of apps and maps that can "help people organize" .

    Infiltration not invasion is a major concern.
     

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    Some are wondering if the man with the head wound was actually hit by the kid's AR. We do not know what ammunition he was using or the caliber.
    the wound was appearing to some to be much less than what a close range 5.56 wound would be.
    There were other people there with guns. Anyway we need more information about how that head wound happened.
     

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    I am sure that the skateboard carrying pieces of shit feel (or have been briefed) that they will not be shot,or otherwise targeted,by the police if they are carrying a "toy" vs a baseball bat or a piece of pipe.
    They seem to forget that a skateboard needs to be swung with both hands,it is hard to control,and does not give you very much added reach.
    Given the choice,I would much rather go H to H with some skateboard scum than with a long lanky teenager carrying a ball bat. Especially with my 32" ASP. --- SAWMAN
     

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    I am sure that the skateboard carrying pieces of shit feel (or have been briefed) that they will not be shot,or otherwise targeted,by the police if they are carrying a "toy" vs a baseball bat or a piece of pipe.
    They seem to forget that a skateboard needs to be swung with both hands,it is hard to control,and does not give you very much added reach.
    Given the choice,I would much rather go H to H with some skateboard scum than with a long lanky teenager carrying a ball bat. Especially with my 32" ASP. --- SAWMAN
    Kid may not be a militia member, but he sure enough is going to be legendary among the militias for a long time coming. And, by the way, now analysis has proven he didn't shoot first
     

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    Most of those groups are throughly infiltrated by the feds and state pigs, community building is better.


    This is the kind of human garbage behind this revolutionary attempt

    Kyle should be given a pared for the public service he did to society

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    Thanks for the link. Eye-opening background info.

    Three dirtbags and zero innocents harmed. The kid's a hero.
     

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    Kid may not be a militia member, but he sure enough is going to be legendary among the militias for a long time coming. And, by the way, now analysis has proven he didn't shoot first
    Interesting
    I'm still saying self defense, but I'd sure like to see more video before he started running
     

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    I fully understand your point... but...

    This incident will be a question of lawful self-defense, he was lawful to be where he was, self-defense law has no age requirement.

    I have personal feelings about what happened as well. But self defense using a firearm does have an age requirement by law! Does not mean I agree or disagree with the age to own and posses a firearm. He was not 18 years old yet and not legally allowed to be in possession of a rifle in this manner. Did his attackers check his age before attacking him, of course not. If he was 18, he'd be a little more in the clear etc... But the fact is, he was not 18. For him to gain access to the firearm and go out there to be armed in that situation is pretty dumb if you ask me at his age.

    This does not mean I don't agree with armed protection of businesses or more! I agree sometimes and disagree in other situations. But to be a minor and putting yourself or allowing you child to go into a riot filled area armed is just not the most smart thing to do. We have enough people against access to firearms. We don't need 17 year olds running around during a riot armed!

    I am for youth being involved with firearms more than most. My children are all taught from about 3-4 years old how to shoot and more!

    Part of self defense is not putting yourself in a situation where you have to defend yourself sometimes. Avoidance is a great self defense tool many times.

    In my home, my children will be trained to whack a mole with firearms for intruders and more. They have the ability and right to use said firearms to protect themselves and their siblings in the home. But outside that, they are not running around in public.
     
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