Need a little advice...

[willieG]

I'm new at red dots and I'm trying to choose between the Holosun 407k 6MOA and the 407c 2MOA to put on my Mark IV.
My 68 year old eyes ain't what they used to be and I'm guessing some of you more experienced folks may be in the same boat. and can advise me.
My targeting will be mostly indoors at 25 yards if it matters, so I'm leaning towards the 6 MOA.
Am I on the right track? Thanks in advance!

 

[stage20]

At that close range, you really should give each a try to see what you like. Everyone's eyes are different.
Paper targets and accuracy, the 2moa will probably be better. 6moa would be good to quickly aquire a mass in a self defense situation.
Just my opinion.

 

[JP0311]

That 407c with the 2moa will have a slightly larger window as well.

 

[willieG]

At that close range, you really should give each a try to see what you like. Everyone's eyes are different.
Paper targets and accuracy, the 2moa will probably be better. 6moa would be good to quickly aquire a mass in a self defense situation.
Just my opinion.

And sometimes I will be outdoors at 50 yds.
I would love to try both first before I buy. Who in P'cola lets ya test drive em?

Thank you.

 

[Baddog 0302]

And sometimes I will be outdoors at 50 yds.
I would love to try both first before I buy. Who in P'cola lets ya test drive em?

Thank you.

What size is what you want to shoot at 50 yds ? If it were the difference between a 2 MOA dot and a 6 MOA dot, but don't both come with a selection of different reticles ??

 

[Tige]

It is America. Buy both.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Get behind one in red and green. I love the green, for my crap eyes. Holosun 507. 3 choices of retical, big, medium, tiny or the Holosun ACSS.

HE507C-GR X2-Holosun

 

[willieG]

What size is what you want to shoot at 50 yds ? If it were the difference between a 2 MOA dot and a 6 MOA dot, but don't both come with a selection of different reticles ??

Like I said I'm new at these, so I'm not sure what you're asking. Could you elaborate?

There's a lot of buzzwords and numbers I've yet to fully understand. Thanks.

 

[Fodderwing]

Once you choose a red dot, check Lobos mounts.

Low Profile Red-Dot Mount, Ruger Mark Series (Venom, Viper, FF3)

Please Read Compatibility Notice Below! Our low profile mount for Ruger MARK series pistols allows the end user to mount a Red Dot Optic directly to the frame of the pistol. This allows for a much lower bore axis vs. picatinny rail/mount stack up and has been designed for a clean integrated look...

lobos-industries.com

Also, you can buy takeoff uppers and setup close and long range options.

Ruger Mark IV Uppers - Page 1 - Wirthwein Guns

wirthweinguns.com

Bigger dots for speed, running steel plates and such.

Small dots for bullseye.

 

[willieG]

Once you choose a red dot, check Lobos mounts.

Low Profile Red-Dot Mount, Ruger Mark Series (Venom, Viper, FF3)

Please Read Compatibility Notice Below! Our low profile mount for Ruger MARK series pistols allows the end user to mount a Red Dot Optic directly to the frame of the pistol. This allows for a much lower bore axis vs. picatinny rail/mount stack up and has been designed for a clean integrated look...

lobos-industries.com

Also, you can buy takeoff uppers and setup close and long range options.

Bigger dots for speed, running steel plates and such.

Small dots for bullseye.

I messaged Lobos yesterday, waiting for reply. Tandemkross has a mount as well, just not as pretty.

Thanks for the tips. Every piece of knowledge helps.

 

[willieG]

It is America. Buy both.

May I borrow your credit card for a few minutes? LOL!

 

[Fodderwing]

I messaged Lobos yesterday, waiting for reply. Tandemkross has a mount as well, just not as pretty.

Thanks for the tips. Every piece of knowledge helps.

i have a Mk IV with a Lobos mount, quality product, gets the dot closer in line with what you are accustomed to with iron sights.

 

[RidgeRunner]

If you shoot indoors, must be at Pensacola Indoor range, I am surprised they don't have some dots on the rental guns? or just go to Mike's and look at a few to get an idea. You really don't need to shoot one to see if your eyes like them or not. Some of the dots break up into a blur with stigmatism and other eye ailments.

 

[.22 cents]

Ill try to explain MOA as I know. I maybe wrong lol. imagine a 360 degree circle around the shooter with the shooter in the center. Each degree should be roughly 60 inches wide like minutes on a clock or ‘minoots’ little pieces. We say ‘men nuts’ and thats wrong lol A 2 MOA dot should cover 2 ‘minoots’ of 1 angle at 100 yds and 6 MOA should cover 6 minutes of angle at 100 yds and thats if your eyes are good for a lit dot. When the target is closer the radius of the circle shrinks and angles with the same 60 minutes get tighter and the dot will cover more angle. Covers less ‘minoots’ at farther distances. Thats kinda how I know it as. I’ve been wrong before

 

[G-rat]

407c is a bigger optic overall. I'm 53 and the 2moa dot is my go to. That being said, I do have a 6moa dot but its on a dedicated carry gun. The 6moa might be a bit big for 25-30yd use in my opinion...

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

I like the circle or "doughnut of death". 507. The 2moa dot is great for zeroing. The chevron on the acss is designed for drop comp too. Handy. 115gr 9mm.

 

[willieG]

407c is a bigger optic overall. I'm 53 and the 2moa dot is my go to. That being said, I do have a 6moa dot but its on a dedicated carry gun. The 6moa might be a bit big for 25-30yd use in my opinion...

I'm coming around to thinking the 407C 2moa in green might be the best for me, although the red would probably work fine too.
I've ordered the Lobos mount. Now I just need to watch for the 4th of July sales.

Thanks all for the sage advice! I'm still learning.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Go green!

 

[willieG]

Go green!

Yuuuuup... Went with the green. & Lobos mount. Now it's complete. Thanks again