Reloading Help

[neohornet]

I am thinking of buying some of these http://gulfcoastgunforum.com/showthread.php?9888-ATTN-HANDLOADERS-224-bullets but I am have a difficult time find reload data for them. Does anyone have some experience with loading these?

 

[SouthBound]

I don't have any experience with them but here are a few pages from some reloading books I've got... Maybe they can help you with a starting load.

EDIT: Didn't read where it said this was a plated round... Sorry but I'll leave these images up anyway...

 

[M.O.A.]

Jacketed and plated bullets don't use the same load charts. Essentially these are cast bullets and because they are copper plated will leave less fouling. Unless you have a bunch of experience handloading save your money..

 

[dead-bird]

I've shot a few thousand plated pistol bullets and will continue.

I know that some have had good luck with plated .30-30.

.223... I'd want to try a few out before going in too deep.

If you can live with the limitations, treating them like a cast bullet is probably the best place to start.

The latest Lyman manual has data for cast bullets, but only up to 55gr.

 

[JohnAL]

I shoot plated pistol bullet all the time with no issues.

Just remember that these are cast bullets. Plated is not the same as jacketed. If you go for normal .223 velocities you will lead the hell out of a barrel.

Second point. These are Trucor brand bullets. (I asked) They are a new company out of Dothan AL and only started production last month. I have no experience with this brand but do some research on the internet. There are complaints out there that Trucor bullets are not even straight and will wobble if you roll them across the table. YMMV

 

[itsazonik]

Start with 55gr cast data, load lighter and do some testing



Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 6.0 2060
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 23,400 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 9.5 2590
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 40,700 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR 700-X 6.0 2065
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 24,600 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR 700-X 8.5 2460
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 39,900 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 6.5 2075
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 22,200 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 9.5 2560
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 36,000 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR PB 6.5 2005
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 21,600 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR PB 9.0 2400
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 36,400 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Unique 7.0 2070
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 19,200 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Alliant Unique 10.0 2690
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 33,500 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 7.0 2060
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 22,200 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 9.5 2460
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 37,700 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Winchester W-630 10.0 2195
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.992" OAL; 19,200 cup
37 Cast #225107 Gas Check Winchester W-630 12.5 2530
Remarks: max load; 1.992" OAL; 24,600 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 5.7 1870
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 22,800 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 9.2 2370
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 40,700 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR 700-X 5.8 1875
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 24,000 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR 700-X 8.2 2245
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 41,100 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 6.3 1905
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 22,800 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 9.3 2335
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 37,700 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR PB 6.5 1860
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 23,400 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR PB 9.2 2250
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 40,300 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Unique 7.0 1945
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 21,000 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Alliant Unique 10.0 2530
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 36,400 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 6.8 1895
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 24,600 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 9.3 2260
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 40,300 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Winchester W-630 10.0 2120
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.034" OAL; 20,400 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Winchester W-630 12.5 2430
Remarks: max load; 2.034" OAL; 27,000 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR SR-4759 12.0 1878
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.034" OAL; 18,100 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR SR-4759 15.0 2612
Remarks: max load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.034" OAL; 31,400 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Winchester W-748 22.0 2578
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.034" OAL; 24,300 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check Winchester W-748 26.2 2809
Remarks: max load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.034" OAL; 28,400 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR IMR-4895 21.0 2337
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.034" OAL; 24,800 cup
41 Cast #225438 Gas Check IMR IMR-4895 23.5 2675
Remarks: max load; case: 2.034" OAL; Remington; primer: CCI 450; 28,200 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 5.4 1675
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 22,800 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Red Dot 8.6 2100
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 40,700 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR 700-X 5.4 1680
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 25,200 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR 700-X 7.5 1970
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 39,000 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 6.0 1735
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 23,400 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Green Dot 8.8 2110
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 38,100 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR PB 6.1 1675
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 24,000 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR PB 8.5 1980
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 40,300 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Unique 6.7 1805
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 22,000 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Alliant Unique 9.0 2110
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 30,000 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 6.4 1715
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 25,800 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR SR-7625 8.3 1950
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 39,400 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Winchester W-630 10.0 2020
Remarks: sugg. start load; 2.090" OAL; 22,200 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Winchester W-630 12.5 2285
Remarks: max load; 2.090" OAL; 29,400 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Hodgdon H-110 13.7 2120
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 23,700 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Hodgdon H-110 18.0 2699
Remarks: max load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 41,600 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR SR-4759 11.3 1762
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 20,700 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check IMR SR-4759 17.7 2611
Remarks: max load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 43,600 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Winchester W-748 19.8 1902
Remarks: sugg. start load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 21,600 cup
54 Cast #225462 Gas Check Winchester W-748 26.0 2697
Remarks: max load; case: Remington; primer: CCI 450; 2.090" OAL; 32,000 cup

 

[dead-bird]

I am thinking of buying some of these http://gulfcoastgunforum.com/showthread.php?9888-ATTN-HANDLOADERS-224-bullets but I am have a difficult time find reload data for them. Does anyone have some experience with loading these?

Holding my opinion, till I can get back and look at some more...

 

[Specialty Pawn]

Dead bird, the bag that I handed you were the culls... That was my mistake... they were bad.

 

[JohnAL]

If they are shipping obvious culls to a dealer then they have a serious problem.

 

[Specialty Pawn]

No Doubt

 

[dead-bird]

Dead bird, the bag that I handed you were the culls... That was my mistake... they were bad.

No problem.
I'll come buy in the next few days and take another look.

I've seen and bought far worse when the price was right.

1.5¢ each. Sometimes price is everything.

 

[beaux]

I have got CRAPPY bullets Winchester & Hornady, it happens.

 

[gendoc]

in all my years of handload'n... I have never seen projectiles like that. and I buy a lot for my family of hunters.
maybe because I don't do seconds. I handload for meat, and a minor few for paper to sight-in.

 

[dead-bird]

When you're looking to feed a full auto gun, they don't always have to be pretty.

Sometimes, just going down range is enough...

 

[shootnstarz]

in all my years of handload'n... I have never seen projectiles like that. and I buy a lot for my family of hunters.
maybe because I don't do seconds. I handload for meat, and a minor few for paper to sight-in.

Doc, those are machine pulled projectiles, some pretty rough ones. Don't expect pinpoint accuracy but they do go down range.

Rick