Nova Scotia fires

[sloporsche]

the canucks are coming the canucks are coming ........eh you hosers

 

[Rational Mind]

You hit the nail on the head ALLEGEDLY. Anything from the ole interweb I take with a grain of salt. Ever see the EXTREMELY PATRIOTIC World War Two picture of the one soldier carrying the wounded soldier over his shoulder while the wounded soldier fired back at the enemy with his 1911 .45 ? Yea those are toy soldiers made to look real. But every Memorial Day and Veterans Day MILLIONS of folks re-post it saying how heroic.

I question everything also but when the current events align with their agenda I tend to look at everything a little deeper.

 

[sloporsche]

That's not the Canadian way. Wait for the ground infantry to show up on mooseback..

I guess they already started the smoke screen and the LST's will be hitting the jersey shore ....the fools will charge right into the snookie defense

 

[Snake-Eyes]

What happens when you have schools run by pedophiles, military run by gays, fire control services run by pyromaniacs, etc.

WHO in the HELL thinks it makes sense to set forests on fire to prevent them from burning?!? PYROMANIACS, that's who! Almost EVERY "prescribed burn" gets out of control. JUST THINK:

SOMEHOW, before man ever set foot on the planet, it was practically COVERED by forests. How was THAT possible without "prescribed burning"? And note that some of the biggest fires ever did happen during that same time-frame, totally independent from Man's input:

" ...the notion is that some kind of large impact occurred in northern North America about 10,900 to 12,900 years ago, during the Younger Dryas Ice Age. This impact, the idea goes, caused massive wildfires across much of the continent that in turn led to the extinction of many of the large Ice Age mammals, like mammoths and mastodons, as well as the human Clovis culture."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...er-found-under-hiawatha-glacier-greenland-ice

Forest management isn’t necessary to make/maintain forests. It’s to keep them compatible with other human land use (cities, camping, etc).

“Controlled” burns are a legitimate forest management tool.

Removes excess tinder just waiting for a lightning strike to set it off. Helps certain plants to seed (I forget the term and species, but they only sprout when activated by fire).

Keeps a future small fire from becoming a raging wildfire inferno.

Nature will do what it wants because it doesn’t care about humans or urban planning, etc.

People want to keep wildfires in check, so forest managers want to minimize large homogeneous tinder fields of spontaneous wildfire fuel.

However, forest management tools run counter to “but muh hiking and camping days are affected” and “smokey air bad”, so they are handcuffed. Results in huge swaths of equal growth with no breaks. Recipe for unstoppable wildfires. Kommiefornia is a perfect example of what happens when people choose to live in areas that aren’t properly managed due to ignorant decision-makers.

Sure, with enough manpower labor and equipment, you could clear cut and Ag-manage some fire breaks and vegetation mixes without using fire, but NOBODY will spend those resources for that. Especially when controlled burns are so much cheaper ON PAPER, regardless of how little they are allowed IN PRACTICE.

TLDR: not all “prescribed” burns are “controlled”, and not enough “controlled” burns are allowed to effectively manage the lands.

 

[Rational Mind]

the canucks are coming the canucks are coming ........eh you hosers

Instead of laughing, making jokes, and referring to cartoons maybe listen to a former military man that tracks flights. The information is out there for all of us. There's no reason for anyone to be ignorant of what's happening.

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[DustyDog]

Forest management isn’t necessary to make/maintain forests. It’s to keep them compatible with other human land use (cities, camping, etc).

“Controlled” burns are a legitimate forest management tool.

Removes excess tinder just waiting for a lightning strike to set it off. Helps certain plants to seed (I forget the term and species, but they only sprout when activated by fire).

Keeps a future small fire from becoming a raging wildfire inferno.

Nature will do what it wants because it doesn’t care about humans or urban planning, etc.

People want to keep wildfires in check, so forest managers want to minimize large homogeneous tinder fields of spontaneous wildfire fuel.

However, forest management tools run counter to “but muh hiking and camping days are affected” and “smokey air bad”, so they are handcuffed. Results in huge swaths of equal growth with no breaks. Recipe for unstoppable wildfires. Kommiefornia is a perfect example of what happens when people choose to live in areas that aren’t properly managed due to ignorant decision-makers.

Sure, with enough manpower labor and equipment, you could clear cut and Ag-manage some fire breaks and vegetation mixes without using fire, but NOBODY will spend those resources for that. Especially when controlled burns are so much cheaper ON PAPER, regardless of how little they are allowed IN PRACTICE.

TLDR: not all “prescribed” burns are “controlled”, and not enough “controlled” burns are allowed to effectively manage the lands.

If that were all true, then the Earth would have been a charred desert before man came on the scene to "burn stuff before it catches on fire"... right? Some local and recent:

https://www.newsweek.com/controlled-burn-fire-torched-dozens-homes-florida-panhandle-1002477

AND

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/...re-in-floridas-panhandle-grows-out-of-control

AND

https://www.wkrg.com/northwest-flor...-prescribed-burn-gone-wrong-in-santa-rosa-co/

I'm not saying that a fire doesn't have some benefits, but fire is either good or bad. There's no difference between a man-lit fire that burns down homes and a lightning-lit fire that does the same... other than the fact we started one and try to put out the other : )

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

This just in!!

 

[sloporsche]

I think the US tried that once before with a rather embarrassing outcome .lol

 

[Snake-Eyes]

If that were all true, then the Earth would have been a charred desert before man came on the scene to "burn stuff before it catches on fire"... right? Some local and recent:

https://www.newsweek.com/controlled-burn-fire-torched-dozens-homes-florida-panhandle-1002477

AND

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/...re-in-floridas-panhandle-grows-out-of-control

AND

https://www.wkrg.com/northwest-flor...-prescribed-burn-gone-wrong-in-santa-rosa-co/

I'm not saying that a fire doesn't have some benefits, but fire is either good or bad. There's no difference between a man-lit fire that burns down homes and a lightning-lit fire that does the same... other than the fact we started one and try to put out the other : )

You’re missing the point. “Forest management” is often used to keep it compatible with Human purposes: neighborhoods, hiking trails, camping, logging, skiing, whatever. Sure, “leave it alone and walk away” is an option, and the Earth would grow forests where it wants and lightning strike some fires here and there as time dictates. The Earth doesn’t GAF about shopping malls or canyon neighborhoods.

A “controlled” burn is just that: CONTROLLED.

Fire breaks. Personnel. Equipment. Weather taken into account, so the winds aren’t your worst enemy. Etc. One idea is to keep the acreage “patchy”. New growth sections. Old growth sections. Nothing contiguous. Another idea is to simply “remove” tinder build-up, to make a future “non-controlled” burn (aka wildfire) easier to put out or give enough time to evacuate the locals in its path.

Fires are neither “good” nor “bad”. They’re just fires.

We associate property damage and loss of life with the ones that are out-of-control, but it’s not the fire’s fault anymore than it's a gun’s fault someone was robbed with it or an innocent was protected with it.

As for your links, if the fires were started by humans and got out-of-control, then they weren’t really “controlled burns”, were they. They may have been “prescribed burns”, but they weren’t controlled.


You mow your lawn to keep the grass low, snakes and ticks away, looking nice, no prickly weeds, easy to scoop doggie landmines, nice to kick a soccer ball or play football, etc, etc. If you didn’t mow it, Nature would let it grow tall. There would be weeds, and leaf piles, and sticks, and snakes, etc. We are constantly battling Nature to somewhat “manage” the land around us to suit our needs. Forest management is the same thing. Controlled burns are just one tool.


All that ^— probably has nothing to do with what is going on in Canada. But it’s not BS.

 

[IronBeard]

somebody needs a snickers and less coffee

Joe Pesci post? Yep. As they say, better out than in.

 

[IronBeard]

Others need to do more research and stop listening to the mainstream media and then they would not suggest we send money to a Country led by a NWO / WEF globalist that froze people's bank accounts and then took away everyone's guns because they protested against lockdowns and forced " not " vaccines. If you did not see this was intentional to push their climate agenda maybe this will help. Agenda 2030 and the great reset are not conspiracy theories. They are real, written down in black and white for all to read if you only take the time to look. View attachment 227876

Yep. It's all "conspiracy" for 6-12 months, those that point it out are full of @#$% for pointing it out, and then it turns out to be true. If not true, highly likely/plausible.

But, but, but, muh government said... Muh pastor said... Muh teacher said...

 

[IronBeard]

So canada has started a war on the US by a chemical [smoke] attack ? Whatever happened to good old bombers and missiles ?

I don't think that is what is being said, so much as a request is being made to look at the bigger picture(?). Don't be distracted by the shiney thing...

 

[IronBeard]

the canucks are coming the canucks are coming ........eh you hosers

Take off, eh. Let's go apply for permission to purchase/posses and get some poutine while we wait...

 

[sloporsche]

Take off, eh. Let's go apply for permission to purchase/posses and get some poutine while we wait...

I hope they don't bring in their canadian bacon too.

 

[Raven]

Burn baby burn

 

[IronBeard]

I hope they don't bring in their canadian bacon too.

Hey now. Ham called bacon is still ham. Bam?

 

[Rational Mind]

What a coincidence.