You may be older lol. I may just be old school. There is also an old chiefs special with Western Super Match ammo sitting on the same night stand lol. I wish I had never gotten rid of my first version lead wadcutter hydra-shoks lol. Here's my modern SD suggestion: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=103lol thanks ,i guess i am older i was thinking lee jurass super vel ammo