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Carry permit and Saenger theater, Pensacola
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I was there in October and had to walk through a metal detector to get in. My carry gun and automatic knife were locked in the car safe, but the detector did not pick up on the folding credit card style blade I keep in my wallet. Once I sat down it came out of the wallet, was folded into the proper shape for use and left in a convenient and easy to access place. That one has not been picked up by a metal detector yet, although I have not had the opportunity to try it at an airport detector. 
RackinRay
Master
Not a new issue, and I cannot find the thread that I did before on it. It got pretty warm in sections and may have been deleted. It was mentioned in another thread;
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"This has made me reconsider my irritation on the Bay Center and Seville Theater concessionaire with similar restrictions, to a greater degree of intrusive enforcement, and Monday I will seek a civil rights attny to address those issues with FSS 790.33. Any interested that would consider joining a class action on that issue, please PM me only your interest so I will have some idea of possible number should the lawyer have any interest since the more involved, the higher the recovery, and perhaps the more willing an attny would be to engage."
Both the bay center and the Sanger are owned by government, county owns Center and city owns Sanger. I could not find any Atty interested, county and city attys did not respond and FDLE confirmed there was no teeth in the statute forbidding any lower govt level from violating the statute. I did not check to see if the stature stands, I just choose to not patronize these locations.
Another Do Not Carry Place
In case you were tempted to check the new ferry service out, check the "prohibited items" list if you CCW: https://www.cruisepb.com/faq/ “Are there items that are prohibited from being brought on board? Yes. Firearms, fireworks, and fuel are prohibited from being brought onboard.”
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"This has made me reconsider my irritation on the Bay Center and Seville Theater concessionaire with similar restrictions, to a greater degree of intrusive enforcement, and Monday I will seek a civil rights attny to address those issues with FSS 790.33. Any interested that would consider joining a class action on that issue, please PM me only your interest so I will have some idea of possible number should the lawyer have any interest since the more involved, the higher the recovery, and perhaps the more willing an attny would be to engage."
Both the bay center and the Sanger are owned by government, county owns Center and city owns Sanger. I could not find any Atty interested, county and city attys did not respond and FDLE confirmed there was no teeth in the statute forbidding any lower govt level from violating the statute. I did not check to see if the stature stands, I just choose to not patronize these locations.
Exactly Ray, going anywhere ii Escambia without a lot of firepower is not a good idea if it can be avoided. I have posted the stats before and they are not hard to find. Hillsborough levels of violent crime with a quarter of the population.
Just carry a non metallic dagger made of G-10 or equivalent. It’s better than nothing. I would personally rather die, than sit through fiddler on the roof. If a gunmen or thug showed up, I’d probably beg them to put me out of my misery.
Not a new issue, and I cannot find the thread that I did before on it. It got pretty warm in sections and may have been deleted. It was mentioned in another thread;
Another Do Not Carry Place
In case you were tempted to check the new ferry service out, check the "prohibited items" list if you CCW: https://www.cruisepb.com/faq/ “Are there items that are prohibited from being brought on board? Yes. Firearms, fireworks, and fuel are prohibited from being brought onboard.”
"This has made me reconsider my irritation on the Bay Center and Seville Theater concessionaire with similar restrictions, to a greater degree of intrusive enforcement, and Monday I will seek a civil rights attny to address those issues with FSS 790.33. Any interested that would consider joining a class action on that issue, please PM me only your interest so I will have some idea of possible number should the lawyer have any interest since the more involved, the higher the recovery, and perhaps the more willing an attny would be to engage."
Both the bay center and the Sanger are owned by government, county owns Center and city owns Sanger. I could not find any Atty interested, county and city attys did not respond and FDLE confirmed there was no teeth in the statute forbidding any lower govt level from violating the statute. I did not check to see if the stature stands, I just choose to not patronize these locations.
May be owned by the city but managed by a property management company and since other buildings not owned by that company have different policies good luck proving the city is the one to institute the policy.
If I were a rich man,
Daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dumb
All day long I'd biddy-biddy-bum
If I were a wealthy man.
I wouldn't have to work hard,
Daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dumb
Lord who made the lion and the lamb,
You decreed I should be what I am
Would it spoil some vast, eternal plan,
If I were a wealthy man?
Daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dumb
All day long I'd biddy-biddy-bum
If I were a wealthy man.
I wouldn't have to work hard,
Daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dumb
Lord who made the lion and the lamb,
You decreed I should be what I am
Would it spoil some vast, eternal plan,
If I were a wealthy man?
Tige
Who/where (born visible, identify as Trans-parent)
IMHO
The brethren should do what they think is best for each individually. Everyone should do their own risk analysis.
Me personally? I don’t worry about the “statistical probability“ or really any other factor. I am prepared 100% of the time. But that is me as an individual. And I will accept responsibility for my actions. And woe be it to anybody who provides a credible threat to me and mine. I have money for lawyers. And I would rather be judged by 12, then carried by six. (I know…trite axiom).
If they ask me to leave… I will.
IMHO
The brethren should do what they think is best for each individually. Everyone should do their own risk analysis.
Me personally? I don’t worry about the “statistical probability“ or really any other factor. I am prepared 100% of the time. But that is me as an individual. And I will accept responsibility for my actions. And woe be it to anybody who provides a credible threat to me and mine. I have money for lawyers. And I would rather be judged by 12, then carried by six. (I know…trite axiom).
If they ask me to leave… I will.
IMHO
While the bay center or the saenger may just ask you to leave.....you are already in the airport with a weapon ever before going through the checkpoint. I'd assume your weapon would be gone forever and you would probably get a trip to the city jail. One place I would not chance anything.I was there in October and had to walk through a metal detector to get in. My carry gun and automatic knife were locked in the car safe, but the detector did not pick up on the folding credit card style blade I keep in my wallet. Once I sat down it came out of the wallet, was folded into the proper shape for use and left in a convenient and easy to access place. That one has not been picked up by a metal detector yet, although I have not had the opportunity to try it at an airport detector.
Mullet Hunter
Master
I have not read through this whole thread however my idea is simple… you cannot be arrested, nor can your property be confiscated for ignorance of the buildings rules. Play ignorant to the rule, don’t bring it up, if they wand you or pat you down return to your vechicle and decide if it is worth it to you to go inside or not and see the show unarmed. My bet is you roll right in with a loaded gun and don’t say a word they all be none to the wiser.
Redleg155
Expert
I hate going somewhere without my carry weapon, but there are some times where I have to attend a venue without one. I'm extremely lucky to have a wife who has just as good, if not better situational awareness that I. Might be because women look at each others shoes, but it works for me!
Pull a James Bond type maneuver and stash it in the venue the day before... just saying. Get hired as "security" for the band. Befriend the management and come in thru the side door... there's always ways around that metal detector
they have metal detectors, along with hand wands if your belt buckle makes it go off
