Dewayne white
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Remington mag nitro piston #4 buck 4 1/4 drams,these kick.
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I am now trying to round up supplies for loading buck. At the moment I suck on shot cups. I have ordered two different sizes. One ended up being 1 3/8 oz thinking was getting 1.5 oz cups. It is a little shot for 9 double 00 or 12 number 1 buckshot.
So I have an order in for
(50 mm is about 2 inches and likely need to use a roll crimp)
I will likely have to trim these. They are intended for steel shot in 3 inch shell.
From midway I ordered this:
and I got the smaller 1 3/8 cup. I could trim the petals off and use the trimmed base old style as an over the powder wad and not as a cup.
I will be loading diverse sizes of buckshot dictated by what I have on hand.
So I have an order in for
(50 mm is about 2 inches and likely need to use a roll crimp)
I will likely have to trim these. They are intended for steel shot in 3 inch shell.
From midway I ordered this:
and I got the smaller 1 3/8 cup. I could trim the petals off and use the trimmed base old style as an over the powder wad and not as a cup.
I will be loading diverse sizes of buckshot dictated by what I have on hand.
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Pappasmurf
Expert
@FrommerStop, would you be interested in another shotshell press?
I PM'd you. I have an ancient lee loader 1 that is missing parts. I was planning to order a new from midwayusa when they are back in stock. The most important needs are resizing and doing a decent crimp, roll, 6, or 8 point star crimp.
I am looking for low brass AA type empties. A low brass shell often has a low base wad that allows a longer shot column needed with buck shot loads.
When I reloaded for waterfowl, I used Ballistics Products wads and load data. They apparently have components in stock. Load data is in the archives. Their products can be used to give 2 feet of spread of 40 yards, or 4 feet of spread at 20 yards, out of a full choke barrel.
The 50mm wads are from ballistics products. I will see what they have archived about buckshot loading. Sometimes with buckshot you want a spread, other time you want a tight pattern. I want a tight pattern with heavy shot. OOO buck is 68 grains and ~.36 caliber.
A lot of it will depend on what sort of gun laws we end up with. Hunting type pump shotguns will likely at least I hope remain unrestricted.
I'd pay two bucks for their load data.
Long range loads are typically buffered. They sell buffering agent as well, (I found it using the search function) and it make a big difference in pattern density.
The spreader wads (and soft shot) reduce pattern density. They work great with birdshot. I've never tried them with buckshot.
Long range loads are typically buffered. They sell buffering agent as well, (I found it using the search function) and it make a big difference in pattern density.
The spreader wads (and soft shot) reduce pattern density. They work great with birdshot. I've never tried them with buckshot.
There is a special wad for tight groups. I have not checked to see if it is available to the public. Under current conditions I would not even bother to look for it.
Buckshot with FLITECONTROL Wad 12 Gauge
From cast boolits http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?306750-
Anyone done this before?
The ideal behind it is the 3 petals on the side opens and slowly allows the wad to separate from the shot.
Think of it as a sabot for buckshot.
I wanna make some long range buck loads.
My objective back in the day was to make long range lead 2 3/4" #2s for shooting cripples on water. They were effective for that out to about 75 yds but patterned too tightly to be of much use wing shooting. I remember there were many variables to tweak and it was punishing to work up the loads.
SAWMAN
Master
I have been using Pattern Master choke tubes for many years. Started using them for coyotes and geese but stopped goose hunting and instead used them while hunting and guiding for crows.
Was perfect out of my Rem 11/87 and Benelli M1 Super 90. (Both 12's)
I started out using these tubes for 3" #4 buck and 3" #2 lead shot. Then used them for #6 copper plated and buffered shot. Later on my hand loaded 1.5ozs of #8 shot (AA hulls) for long range crows.
These tubes have "fingers" inside that grab the wad,slow it down and allow the shot to seperate more uniformly. I noticed that there were no "flyers" when patterning these loads on paper. --- SAWMAN
Was perfect out of my Rem 11/87 and Benelli M1 Super 90. (Both 12's)
I started out using these tubes for 3" #4 buck and 3" #2 lead shot. Then used them for #6 copper plated and buffered shot. Later on my hand loaded 1.5ozs of #8 shot (AA hulls) for long range crows.
These tubes have "fingers" inside that grab the wad,slow it down and allow the shot to seperate more uniformly. I noticed that there were no "flyers" when patterning these loads on paper. --- SAWMAN
Link is https://www.patternmaster.com/
I will have to find out if these tubes will handle slugs and shot. Thanks for that that post.
I will have to find out if these tubes will handle slugs and shot. Thanks for that that post.
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My shotguns are mostly without any choke tube and are not new. Some years ago I purchased some second hand shotguns just in anticipation of an antigun take over with a self proclaimed pro-shotgun president
I think I have one old warrior gun that has a tube in it. I will have to ck it out and if in good condition I could set it up for 4 number buck for some specialized tasks that will only be for number 4 buck. But for a general fighting shotgun that choke design is a no go.
Even a tight pattern of #2's is interesting
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My shotguns are mostly without any choke tube and are not new. Some years ago I purchased some second hand shotguns just in anticipation of an antigun take over with a self proclaimed pro-shotgun president
I think I have one old warrior gun that has a tube in it. I will have to ck it out and if in good condition I could set it up for 4 number buck for some specialized tasks that will only be for number 4 buck. But for a general fighting shotgun that choke design is a no go.
I notice that the Ballistic product steel shot wad that I have on order has ridges that likely do the same thing as the pattern master choke tube.
Even a tight pattern of #2's is interesting
SAWMAN
Master
Not "fingers" but "stud ring" ?? Now I understand why I started using them. Reminded me . . . OF ME !!
ANYWAY - - -> Seems that I read or heae'ed somewhere - > NO SLUGS!! But never tried them. Possibly the sabot type slugs,but they wern't around back then.
Seems like I have had mine since about '93 or 4. They are SS and extended and I found through trial and error,that they would scare crows,so I simly used a magic marker on mine. Nowadays possibly cerakote. --- SAWMAN
ANYWAY - - -> Seems that I read or heae'ed somewhere - > NO SLUGS!! But never tried them. Possibly the sabot type slugs,but they wern't around back then.
Seems like I have had mine since about '93 or 4. They are SS and extended and I found through trial and error,that they would scare crows,so I simly used a magic marker on mine. Nowadays possibly cerakote. --- SAWMAN
Ballistic gel tests for birdshot, buckshot and slugs:
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