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    I have several rifles and shot guns that I would like to see if anybody can provide me information:
    Mossburg &Sons 22 tube feed Model 46B
    One has the following on receiver: ASTCFA K.KAL 1945
    Stevens Model 94age 2 3/4 single shot
    On the rest there was not much on the guns. Any idea of value etc
     

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    Your post needs more info if you seriously want a bunch of strangers to be able to help you.

    How many rifles is “several”?
    What do they look like?
    There have to be more markings. The barrels should have something, etc.

    Pretend you were selling each rifle. That’s the kind of info that would help us help you:
    -Pictures: closeups of the markings, and overall to see stock, barrel, sights, bolt, etc.
    -Details: caliber, name, any history you know (got it from your grandfather, found in a barn, bought it at a gun show from a civil war ghost, whatever)
    -Measurements: barrel length, overall length, best approximation of the bore diameter at the muzzle if you don’t know the caliber, etc

    As for what you’ve already provided, the Mossberg 46B is an old 22LR trainer. 15-rounds or so in the tube. That peep sight looks fine. You still have the stoplight red/green safety buttons. Take care not to ding up that plastic trigger guard. They usually shoot accurately. Fun rifles. Probably $300+. I don’t know these days.

    The “Ankara K. Kale 1945” with the crescent moon is a Turkish Mauser, probably still chambered in 8mm. I would be guessing at a price.

    The Stevens Model 94 doesn’t seem to be pictured. Should be a break action single shot. Since you typed “2 3/4”, I’m going to guess it‘s a 12-gauge. Good reviews on those. Not a complicated shotgun. Again, I’d be guessing at a price, especially these days.

    I’m not sure on the other bolt action you pictured.

    Real “value” is a discussion of where they came from, what they mean to you and your family, how long you expect to keep them in the family, and why you would be selling them. But just ballpark starter numbers, figure a few hundred each rifle as an estimate.

    I like older guns. Hence why I spent some time to help, even though a lot of that info can be found with a quick internet search. So, what’s the story on this collection?
     

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    @Snake-Eyes, thanks for the info. I provided all the info I could read from the barrels, hard to see. I can make out writing, I hjust cannot read. I got these weapons around 1998. A friend of the family passed; the family know I shot a lot. Ask if I wanted them, so I "got" them. They sat in my parents' house until last year. Now I have them. About the only thing I know is the former owner collected them, wanted them to stay together when he passed. So, I have had them for 20 plus years, and almost needer even looked at them. I will look at them later today and see if I can get/read any info on the weapons.

    If you would consider looking at them in person, I would be happy to set up a time.
     

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    The bolt action with the thumbhole stock is a 30-06 it's a model 1917 probably a Winchester, look under the front scope base there will be markings. It was a rifle used in World War 1. As you probably already know it is after market stock. The American Rifleman had a good article on it, you can Google it
     
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    The bolt action with the thumbhole stock is a 30-06 it's a model 1917 probably a Winchester, look under the front scope base there will be markings. It was a rifle used in World War 1. As you probably already know it is after market stock. The American Rifleman had a good article on it, you can Google it
    Thanks J Pase, I will check and pass along any info I find.
     

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    @Snake-Eyes, thanks for the info. I provided all the info I could read from the barrels, hard to see. I can make out writing, I hjust cannot read. I got these weapons around 1998. A friend of the family passed; the family know I shot a lot. Ask if I wanted them, so I "got" them. They sat in my parents' house until last year. Now I have them. About the only thing I know is the former owner collected them, wanted them to stay together when he passed. So, I have had them for 20 plus years, and almost needer even looked at them. I will look at them later today and see if I can get/read any info on the weapons.

    If you would consider looking at them in person, I would be happy to set up a time.

    If you’re on the SW side of Pensacola, that’s an hour one way from Hurlburt area. It would be cheaper on gas, and easier on schedules, and frankly more bang for the buck, if you were to try and take more pictures and post them here with any measurements, etc. Other, more knowledgeable, members could then chime in.

    As much as I’d like to handle some classic rifles and shotguns, I think it’d be better use of your time to post more pictures here.
     

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    If you’re on the SW side of Pensacola, that’s an hour one way from Hurlburt area. It would be cheaper on gas, and easier on schedules, and frankly more bang for the buck, if you were to try and take more pictures and post them here with any measurements, etc. Other, more knowledgeable, members could then chime in.

    As much as I’d like to handle some classic rifles and shotguns, I think it’d be better use of your time to post more pictures here.
    I need to get to work. I will post more detailed info and photos later today. Again, thanks for the information.
     

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    I have found it to list one at the time:

    Stamped on barrel: 22 CAL LONG RIFLE CRIMPED SMOKELESS OTG.
    Serial # 6XX on the frame bottom by trigger guard; magazine feed pump action

    more to follow
     

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    Next one:
    Stamped on barrel by front sight: "Turkey 8MM" and "N. A. RIDGEFIELD N. J.
    Stamped on the top of the receiver: “Ankara K. Kale 1945" and a crescent moon shape.
    The following numbers are stamped: On Receiver: 98XX on bolt: 75XX on mam plate 47XX
    I will assume with 3 different numbers, it may have been repaired/replaced.
     

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    Thanks to Snake-eyes for info, he stated "Mossberg 46B is an old 22LR trainer. 15-rounds tub"
    On the barrel: C. F. MOSSBURG & SONS, INC NEW HAVEN CONN 46B(a) 22 S-L-LR
    Rear iron sight removed, front is intact, I cannot find serial number, has peep sight, appears in good shape, red/green safety is there and works
     

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    4th one pictured, looks like an old Savage 1903.. those are cool take down guns. It would be nice to find the magazine.
     

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    This is a Remington: On the barrel: U.S. MODEL OF 1917 REMINGTON. There are some stamps on the receiver from an armory, old school scope ring mounts on the receiver, see photo, no iron sights, Barrel is 21 1/2 inched. thumb hole stock. Very nice condition on the bluing.
     

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    Savage Arms: STEVENS MODEL 940B Chambered in 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch, I know standard shotgun for the day) Single shot breach break action: 29 3/4 inch barrel with overall length 45 1/4. A very nice engraving on the side, see photo.
     

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    This last one has stamped on the barrel that is difficult to read. Gun is a bolt action mag feed, loaded from the breach The following is best I can read: On the barrel: WESTERN MODEL 30C. Cannot find any other markings on the entire gun, did not take apart. No gauge/caliber markings. 12 gauge fits the chamber, did not fire the gun.
     

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    If anybody has any info it would be appreciated. I will be at the Escambia County Fair Grounds on Saturday. If anyone wants to see any of these weapons, I will bring them with me. Just need to know what ones you want to see and a approxement time you can be there. Again, thank for your assistance.
     

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    This is a Remington: On the barrel: U.S. MODEL OF 1917 REMINGTON. There are some stamps on the receiver from an armory, old school scope ring mounts on the receiver, see photo, no iron sights, Barrel is 21 1/2 inched. thumb hole stock. Very nice condition on the bluing.
    A single shot... that sucks. Even though drilled and tapped, this Remington M19l7 is worth mail ordering an original stock set and box mag. Unmolested and in as-issued condition they are $1000-$1500. I've had a few. In it's present condition it's not worth much. Going rate on the last couple of M1917 sporters I've seen was $300(+-). You're looking at $100 if sold to an FFL. You could easily get $600-$900 if your barrel is not cut down, you're able to find original iron sights and you get good original Remington wood and stock hardware
     
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    A single shot... that sucks. Even though drilled and tapped, this Remington M19l7 is worth mail ordering an original stock set and box mag. Unmolested and in as-issued condition they are $1000-$1500. I've had a few. I'm it's present condition it's not worth much. Going rate on the last couple of M1917 sporters I've seen was $300(+-). You'ee looking at $100 if sold to an FFL. You could easily get $600-$900 if your barrel is not cut down, you're able to find original iron sights and you get good original Remington wood and stock hardware
    Oh by the way, I'd be real interested to see if there's a "W" on that bolt anywhere. The Winchester M1917 bolts were the only ones of the three M1917 manufacturers to have nickel steel in the bolts too, not just the receivers. As such they were highly sought after for custom magnum caliber builds. Get the chamber slugged by a gunsmith. Don't assume it's still 30-06. A Winchester M1917 bolt is worth more than that whole rifle
     

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    This last one has stamped on the barrel that is difficult to read. Gun is a bolt action mag feed, loaded from the breach The following is best I can read: On the barrel: WESTERN MODEL 30C. Cannot find any other markings on the entire gun, did not take apart. No gauge/caliber markings. 12 gauge fits the chamber, did not fire the gun.
    Just a wonderful story of that little Kessler model30C

     
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