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12000 years ago was still in the last ice age, what’s known as “upper Paleolithic”, and the white people of Europe weren’t exactly the imperialistic empires that stole technology from everyone they encountered/conquered.

but that’s assuming his years are correct, and I know everyone loves to hate Wikipedia, but their article states the oldest fossils are from Germany some 14k years ago.

and then there’s the following article from the Atlantic, which opens the possibility that dogs were domesticated independently in different regions at least 14k years ago(which makes a lot of sense, something as useful as a hunting dog ranks up there with a knife and the ability to start fire in survival: things that were discovered independently through different cultures).But hey, wtf do I know, other than the author says he likes the zoo, where people take animals out of the wild and detain only confinement simply for our pleasure.


 

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12000 years ago was still in the last ice age, what’s known as “upper Paleolithic”, and the white people of Europe weren’t exactly the imperialistic empires that stole technology from everyone they encountered/conquered.

but that’s assuming his years are correct, and I know everyone loves to hate Wikipedia, but their article states the oldest fossils are from Germany some 14k years ago.

and then there’s the following article from the Atlantic, which opens the possibility that dogs were domesticated independently in different regions at least 14k years ago(which makes a lot of sense, something as useful as a hunting dog ranks up there with a knife and the ability to start fire in survival: things that were discovered independently through different cultures).But hey, wtf do I know, other than the author says he likes the zoo, where people take animals out of the wild and detain only confinement simply for our pleasure.


Good call Max. I let it slip my attention that he was a zoo supporter
 

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"you still have a dog its divide by killing your intelligent self guided fur-missile first and then conquering you. Holds true whether "they" are hoodrats doing a home invasion or whether "they" are UN peacekeepers going door to door, or worse"

I'll bet nobody on this forum will allow this to happen.
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See, I told you guys you would stand with your dogs! I remember Nixon had a secretary of agriculture named Earl Butz. "Ol Earl was always getting his butt in a crack by saying crazy things. Anyway he figured up how much grain and meat that went into making pet food yearly in the US. He came up with a plan to get rid of the pets so as to have more food to feed a hungry world, according to him anyway. I would not have wanted to be the guy to come by the house and get my daddy's shetland sheepdog.
 

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See, I told you guys you would stand with your dogs! I remember Nixon had a secretary of agriculture named Earl Butz. "Ol Earl was always getting his butt in a crack by saying crazy things. Anyway he figured up how much grain and meat that went into making pet food yearly in the US. He came up with a plan to get rid of the pets so as to have more food to feed a hungry world, according to him anyway. I would not have wanted to be the guy to come by the house and get my daddy's shetland sheepdog.
Yeah that's a crazy plan, but it has already happened, all across Europe in WW2. Europeans had eaten all the grain and then set to eating everything walking in the four or five years of war before the US got involved. I've read about in several compilation books of troops letters and journals and reporters, all saying the same thing. Eerily quiet everywhere they marched. Body counts said America lost like 500,000 dead (and that's shocking enough) but others say that Russia and Germany lost like 40,000,000 dead and who knows about the other European countries. Russia had to pass laws (that were barely enforceable) against eating people after they ran out of furry things to eat
 
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