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    I'm pretty sure it cut into the canal all and bottom like a plow. The hull displaced material riding on top/compressing some but primarily piled the farrow's displaced material along the port side. In essence, it created a berm that prevents moving the bow sideways. It has to be freed in a aft/reverse direction that the hull already transitioned over.
    Without actually being there it could be as you say. If the case that the bottom is soft sand or mud, a standard river dredge in a day or so could pump out the furrow walls on both sides. If it is bed rock and rubble likely not.
     

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    Tides on Monday expected 18” higher. 1300’ and the cargo and ship combined weight is unbelievable.
     

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    By Magdy Samaan, Mohammed Tawfeeq and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN



    Updated 9:19 AM ET, Sun March 28, 2021

    The rubber and propellers are freed and working at high tide and a crane and two more tugs are on the way.

    Dredgers have been working to extract vast quantities of sand and mud from around the port side of the 224,000-ton vessel's bow.
    "Having removed more than 20,000 tons of sand and mud, the dredging operation underway has succeeded in loosening the Ever Given's bow within the bank of the Suez Canal and the ship's stern has been cleared from the sand bank," Evergreen Marine said in an update Sunday.
    "The rudder and propeller of the vessel are fully functional and expected to provide additional support to tugboats assigned to move the container ship from the accident site so that normal transit may again resume within the canal."
    Speaking at a news conference Saturday, SCA chairman Osama Rabie gave details of the rescue operation, which he described as "technically difficult" and "involving many factors."
    "We are facing a difficult and complicated situation, we work in a rocky soil, the tides are very high, in addition to the huge size of the ship and the number of containers that make it difficult," he said. "We cannot set a specific date for the ship to float, it depends on the ship's response."
    Around 9,000 tons of ballast water have been removed from the ship, Rabie said, with the dredging taking place during low tides while 14 tugs worked during high tides. Rescue teams managed to temporarily restart the rudder and propellers on Friday night before a low tide stalled their efforts, he said.
    Two additional heavy tugboats are expected to arrive at the Ever Given "presumably early evening" on Sunday, a spokesman for Boskalis, a sister company of SMIT Salvage, told CNN.
    The pair have a combined pulling capacity of around 400 tons, said spokesman Martijn Schuttevaer. Once the tugboats arrive, it could take a few hours to hook up to the Ever Given, he said.
    Boskalis' chief executive said Friday that he hoped those two tugs' extra pulling power -- combined with dredging, a high tide of 40 to 50 centimeters, and the "lever power" of the ship's stern being relatively free -- could be enough to wrest the container ship free.
    A crane that could be used to remove containers from the ship's bow, should that plan fail, has also not yet arrived, according to Boskalis.





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    So ... this is the first time something like this happened there?
    Pretty convenient timing.
    This is the largest an heaviest ship ever to go through the canal and it experienced the highest winds ever recorded? This is what they expect the world to believe? How high do the winds have to be to throw a ship of that size off course? 200, 300 MPH? Does the dessert experience winds of that velocity? I still say Iran is experiencing the most severe sanctions from the USA. They are hurting. They want everyone else to hurt as well. The same with china. Trump placed the highest tariffs on their goods and services and exposed them for being currency manipulators and thieves of USA R&D and intellectual property. They were hurting with Trump in office. Their answer release the chinese flu on the world. It's no accident we know nothing of their recovery or that their people could travel the world but not travel in china. Conspiracy theory? Perhaps. I don't believe in coincidences. Often times the simplest answer is the correct one.
     
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    This is the largest an heaviest ship ever to go through the canal and it experienced the highest winds ever recorded? This is what they expect the world to believe? How high do the winds have to be to throw a ship of that size off course? 200, 300 MPH? Does the dessert experience winds of that velocity? I still say Iran is experiencing the most severe sanctions from the USA. They are hurting. They want everyone else to hurt as well. The same with china. Trump placed the highest tariffs on their goods and services and exposed them for being currency manipulators and thieves of USA R&D intellectual property. They were hurting with Trump in office. Their answer release the chinese flu on the world. It's no accident we know nothing of their recovery or that their people could travel the world but not travel in china. Conspiracy theory? Perhaps. I don't believe in coincidences. often times the simplest answer is the correct one.
    Right now the issue is freeing that ship.
    People are certainly wondering about what went wrong and that is not known for sure. There will be investigations and likely all sorts of court cases likely under international admiralty law and also the laws of Egypt combined with contract agreements.
    I would hold off concluding anything until we have more information.
    But there already lessons to be learned. The disruption of vital transportation links is devastating to economies.
    World wide there are other such links like the panama canal. We have many canals in the USA like the Sault Ste. Marie locks, those on the upper Mississippi and in many other places. We all know how bad it is when a bridge gets knocked out. To knock out a bridge does not require explosives. commandeer a tugboat and its tow and head for bridge is all it needs in many cases.
     

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    I wonder what kind of security is surrounding and embedded in this particular rescue/removal operation? Background checks on the personnel? Controlled access? Equipment inspections? Process controls and approvals before catastrophic mistakes could be made while implementing a "solution"?

    Imagine if that 1300+ foot long canal PLUG was sabotaged to remain immovable?

    Can't call Iron-Man or Superman to do the heavy lifting...

    Seems like an Achilles Heel of global transportation.
     

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    This is the largest an heaviest ship ever to go through the canal and it experienced the highest winds ever recorded? This is what they expect the world to believe? How high do the winds have to be to throw a ship of that size off course? 200, 300 MPH? Does the dessert experience winds of that velocity? I still say Iran is experiencing the most severe sanctions from the USA. They are hurting. They want everyone else to hurt as well. The same with china. Trump placed the highest tariffs on their goods and services and exposed them for being currency manipulators and thieves of USA R&D and intellectual property. They were hurting with Trump in office. Their answer release the chinese flu on the world. It's no accident we know nothing of their recovery or that their people could travel the world but not travel in china. Conspiracy theory? Perhaps. I don't believe in coincidences. Often times the simplest answer is the correct one.
    Superpowers and weather manipulation are not out of the question
     

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    I wonder what kind of security is surrounding and embedded in this particular rescue/removal operation? Background checks on the personnel? Controlled access? Equipment inspections? Process controls and approvals before catastrophic mistakes could be made while implementing a "solution"?

    Imagine if that 1300+ foot long canal PLUG was sabotaged to remain immovable?

    Can't call Iron-Man or Superman to do the heavy lifting...

    Seems like an Achilles Heel of global transportation.
    Did you see how much desert is on either side of that canal?! You can't tell me that with the number of ships going thru there that the richest countries in the world couldn't have four-laned that canal by now and prevented this. No time like the present to get started. Would be a huge economic boost and PR stunt for the area, too. If they don't four-lane that canal after this and the resulting billions of dollars of increased shipping costs from only one plug, then it proves that canal is a choke point on purpose
     

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    Did you see how much desert is on either side of that canal?! You can't tell me that with the number of ships going thru there that the richest countries in the world couldn't have four-laned that canal by now and prevented this. No time like the present to get started. Would be a huge economic boost and PR stunt for the area, too. If they don't four-lane that canal after this and the resulting billions of dollars of increased shipping costs from only one plug, then it proves that canal is a choke point on purpose
    There has been at least one war fought over the threat of closing that canal.

    'The Suez Crisis began on October 29, 1956, when Israeli armed forces pushed into Egypt toward the Suez Canal after Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser (1918-70) nationalized the canal, a valuable waterway that controlled two-thirds of the oil used by Europe. The Israelis were soon joined by French and British forces, which nearly brought the Soviet Union into the conflict and damaged their relationships with the United States. In the end, Egypt emerged victorious, and the British, French and Israeli governments withdrew their troops in late 1956 and early 1957. The event was a pivotal event among Cold War superpowers.'

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    There has been at least one war fought over the threat of closing that canal.

    'The Suez Crisis began on October 29, 1956, when Israeli armed forces pushed into Egypt toward the Suez Canal after Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser (1918-70) nationalized the canal, a valuable waterway that controlled two-thirds of the oil used by Europe. The Israelis were soon joined by French and British forces, which nearly brought the Soviet Union into the conflict and damaged their relationships with the United States. In the end, Egypt emerged victorious, and the British, French and Israeli governments withdrew their troops in late 1956 and early 1957. The event was a pivotal event among Cold War superpowers.'

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    Nowadays there would have been no backing down, and Americans would have been occupiers there as well, for the next hundred years
     
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    We've been in Iraq now for 30 years. And how long did it take us to give up the Panama Canal?
     

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    Not just oil and gas passes through...when was it that Russia threatened Israeli aircraft flying in Syria??
     
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    news reporting ship has been freed?
    What I am seeing on the news is 80% free. I am waiting for a newer update
    The stern of a huge container ship that has been wedged across the Suez Canal for almost a week has been freed from the shoreline, officials say. The course of the 400m-long (1,300ft) Ever Given has been corrected by 80%, according to the Suez Canal Authority.2 hours ago

     
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    The most recent news is that it is indeed still stuck. Some of the backed up ships have livestock and are running out of food for the animals.

    But since they freed the stern and have the prop(s) working, they will have more leverage and pull to get the entire ship into deeper part of the channel. Big thing is not to put more stress on it than the ship's structure can handle. They for sure do not want to tip that ship over. They removed some ballast if I got that right, but it is now even more top heavy. If they were to break up the ship, a fuel spill is possible. The fuel is likely still Bunker C fuel oil (number 5 or 6 diesel) that might be slow to unload. Bunker oil is the bottom residual of what is left over during the refining process. It is cheap and usually needs to be heated prior to injection into engine.
    A link that explains bunker oil https://utahrails.net/up/bunker-c.php
    There has been agreements to use lower sulfur fuels in ships and I am not sure where all of that is at this time. Some ships were switching to regular diesel when approaching ports and in canals to reduce emissions.
     
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