Here is a line you are welcome to use in discussions with pro vaccine bullies . since you got a untested vaccine in five years if you are a vegetable in a hospital bed maybe if you are lucky someone who was brave enough to think for themselves will be there to wipe the drool off your face
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Reuters (independent and respected news outlet that reports facts without biases) fact check says claims that the vaccine is untested are false. Be cautious of misleading media. We're in a country where everyone has the freedom to make choices for themselves, so make your own choice and save your breath. You might need it if you get sick.
My wife is a nurse for 40 years at a very large medical facility guess what nobody there is getting a vaccine but hey trust the authorities. is a Vaccine spot supposed to set off a barcode scanner go ahead and call me a nut but I’ve seen it with my own eyes try it for yourself
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You are correct it is not “Untested” it “IS” however STILL TO THIS DAY “Approved for emergency use only” which is why allot of legal gurus are saying legally they can’t mandate it. There is a lawsuit now that when ruled upon should set a precedence based on the ruling
This was a good read, there seems to be some factual information here with sources and some personal opinion. Not looking to debate the vaccine just wanted to share.
www.deconstructingconventional.com
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
A few friends have asked my thoughts on the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic. All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them. Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me...
www.deconstructingconventional.com
Rebel_Rider1969
Well Known Nuisance
Miscarriages...... read up on it.
BamaFaninMilton
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FWIW, my wife is a hospital pharmacist, and according to the information that she has read, the covid vaccine is based off of approved vaccines that have been in existence for many years. We both voluntarily got vaccinated: she because of working in a hospital, me because I have a medical condition which is considered a co-morbidity.
That being said, I do not agree that people should be forced into, or shamed into, getting the vaccination. If you don't want to get it, then don't get it. If you do want to get it, then go get it.
That being said, I do not agree that people should be forced into, or shamed into, getting the vaccination. If you don't want to get it, then don't get it. If you do want to get it, then go get it.
Do you know what vaccines in the past that the covid19 vaccines are based off of?
My understanding is that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine use mRNA technology which is relatively new and while there has been some mRNA testing in the past, there has never been an mRNA vaccine officially on the market before. The J&J vaccine is reported to use traditional vaccine technology. This is only info that ive accumulated from reading articles online. Im not saying the vaccines are bad but I like to try and be informed.Let me know if im wrong please.
- Not a medical guru just a guy trying to make sense of it all
Per CDC:
"Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. Interest has grown in these vaccines because they can be developed in a laboratory using readily available materials. This means the process can be standardized and scaled up, making vaccine development faster than traditional methods of making vaccines.
mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine.
Future mRNA vaccine technology may allow for one vaccine to provide protection for multiple diseases, thus decreasing the number of shots needed for protection against common vaccine-preventable diseases.
Beyond vaccines, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ccines have been studied,into an mRNA vaccine.
"Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. Interest has grown in these vaccines because they can be developed in a laboratory using readily available materials. This means the process can be standardized and scaled up, making vaccine development faster than traditional methods of making vaccines.
mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine.
Future mRNA vaccine technology may allow for one vaccine to provide protection for multiple diseases, thus decreasing the number of shots needed for protection against common vaccine-preventable diseases.
Beyond vaccines, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ccines have been studied,into an mRNA vaccine.
BamaFaninMilton
Emeritus
Not sure what the vaccines are that the covid vaccines are based upon, I would have to ask my wife. Of course, she could have mentioned it before, but sometimes she starts talking to me like I know what she's talking about, and it just goes in one ear and out the other, LOL!
SAWMAN
Master
Be prepared for a MANDATORY showing of papers.
CONCLUSIVE PROOF ( to the biden/faucci admin) that you have had a/the vaccines or - - ->
* NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
* NO SCHOOL OF ANY KIND INCLUDING CHILD CARE CENTERS
* NO DINEING OUT
* NO PUBLIC SHOWING OF FRIENDSHIP or AFFECTION.
* SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON NATIONWIDE AND WORLD WIDE TRAVEL
* ETC,ETC,ETC. --- SAWMAN
CONCLUSIVE PROOF ( to the biden/faucci admin) that you have had a/the vaccines or - - ->
* NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
* NO SCHOOL OF ANY KIND INCLUDING CHILD CARE CENTERS
* NO DINEING OUT
* NO PUBLIC SHOWING OF FRIENDSHIP or AFFECTION.
* SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON NATIONWIDE AND WORLD WIDE TRAVEL
* ETC,ETC,ETC. --- SAWMAN
Deersniper270
Master
Just a matter of time before the flimsy paper signs that are already out saying masks are not mandatory for fully vaccinated people turns into a check station at the door.
One could argue for either side and not many minds would change at this time. What would be good in my opinion is stating facts and references. For example, using the Nuremberg defense for not getting Covid vaccine has been tried and failed. Nuremberg does not prohibit tested and authorized vaccines. Now your definition of “tested” might differ from what passed CDC muster, say 500,000 people tested instead of 40,000 or years instead of months.
I admit I’m pro Covid vaccine and pro being prepared. When a relative dies from Covid, it can cause a serious look at the situation...it’s no longer an abstract idea one hears in the news. Now in the case of my 15yo grand daughter, I researched as best I could and then gave my recommendation to my daughter. I recommended either of the two dose vaccines instead of J&J as J&J had less studying in efficacy in age 12-17 vs the other vaccines. She got her first shot a week ago after all the parties, including my grand daughter agreed and discussed.
I’d previously received a pneumonia vaccine. A few weeks ago I got a “mild” case of pneumonia in my right lung. Antibiotics cleared it. I did not let the fact that I got pneumonia turn me off of vaccinations. Simply probably a bacteria strain not covered by the vaccine at the time I was vaccinated.
Years ago I wrote a pandemic paper for where I used to work...Medical Center Clinic. CEO would not let it be published for all employees...too scary I was told. Since Covid several ex employees have said they remember what I wrote...it was given out in the office where I worked.
I admit I’m pro Covid vaccine and pro being prepared. When a relative dies from Covid, it can cause a serious look at the situation...it’s no longer an abstract idea one hears in the news. Now in the case of my 15yo grand daughter, I researched as best I could and then gave my recommendation to my daughter. I recommended either of the two dose vaccines instead of J&J as J&J had less studying in efficacy in age 12-17 vs the other vaccines. She got her first shot a week ago after all the parties, including my grand daughter agreed and discussed.
I’d previously received a pneumonia vaccine. A few weeks ago I got a “mild” case of pneumonia in my right lung. Antibiotics cleared it. I did not let the fact that I got pneumonia turn me off of vaccinations. Simply probably a bacteria strain not covered by the vaccine at the time I was vaccinated.
Years ago I wrote a pandemic paper for where I used to work...Medical Center Clinic. CEO would not let it be published for all employees...too scary I was told. Since Covid several ex employees have said they remember what I wrote...it was given out in the office where I worked.
The bottom line is we have had the Flu vaccine for 80 years and we still get the flu and people still die, COVID is here to stay. Now are we going to be wearing masks 100 years from now ? The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of the population will not get COVID, if they do it has a 98.6% survival rate. Now that being said we did start taking vitamins D-3, C and Zinc which is what they say is the best thing to ward COVID off. I am not trying to make light of ANYONE who has died, but this AMERICA and a mandated vaccine that they RUSHED into service is flat out BULLSHIT !!!!
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