Hearing protection bill

John B. · Jun 13, 2017

Personally I don't have any interest in a garage made suppressor. Let's be honest. These are going on firearms. A can out of spec has the potential to injure or kill you if something terrible goes wrong. I'll continue to buy from reputable manufacturers.

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Dan1612 · Jun 13, 2017

John B. said:
Personally I don't have any interest in a garage made suppressor. Let's be honest. These are going on firearms. A can out of spec has the potential to injure or kill you if something terrible goes wrong. I'll continue to buy from reputable manufacturers.

Meh! They're only flesh wounds. Plus, I don't want to give the federals $200, and be on their radar. They'll know where I live!!! They'll come and take my guns! So no, I'll just hang out and daydream of the day when me and my buddies can make suppressors out of paper clips, old chewing gum, and belly button lint.

HughJoergan · Jun 13, 2017

Quit pissing on Franks dream or he'll put you on his "list"........

eace:

Dan1612 · Jun 13, 2017

HughJoergan said:
Quit pissing on Franks dream or he'll put you on his "list"........ eace:

I'm sorry, I want to. Really though, it's just too hard not to.
Fortunately, I know he doesn't take it seriously. Lol

FrankT · Jun 13, 2017

Hey a machinist made suppressor is hardly a home made unit, who do you think make a lot of these commercial units not? Just making it easier for any pro to get into the game is all. It is really very simple to make a suppressor for $150 that you now buy for $700, there is a huge markup due to the ATF and the regulations, it is not rocket science.

Famine · Jun 13, 2017

It will be interesting for sure. I suspect some of the retailers will not be excited for this to pass if it drives the prices and margins down. Today they make more $$ on a high end suppressor sale than they do a firearm. I want - not need - a couple more so I can wait to see if it passes to buy - $200 is $200 a NIC check is so much better than even the former trust process. It is silly that they are controlled to begin with - too much Hollywood I guess. With the exception of .22 subs the idea that they silence a firearm is silly - ear safe - yes - silence - no. Borrowing from JJ - my .02C...

2ndAmendmentShooting · Jun 13, 2017

The original SHARE act died in the Senate. This new revision also has no chance, considering the political climate, especially with the HPA language incorporated in.

Little Jack · Jun 13, 2017

2ndAmendmentShooting said:
The original SHARE act died in the Senate. This new revision also has no chance, considering the political climate, especially with the HPA language incorporated in.

Party pooper..

bobinbusan · Jun 13, 2017

Going to be "INTERESTING"

2ndAmendmentShooting · Jun 13, 2017

Little Jack's Guns said:
Party pooper..

not a party pooper, just a realist. Until repubs have the hard majority (61), absolutely nothing will get accomplished in 3.5 years. God forbid we lose the mid terms and the next presidential election.

What is more realistic is when the Obama appointed BATFE director steps down in a couple months due to mandatory retirement, and when Turk is appointed director, that he reverses 41F.

wildrider666 · Jun 13, 2017

I think if a person can:

A. Build a 80% lower and drill the holes in the correct place and correct size.
B. Cut threads internal/external.
C. Weld (if design requirement).
D. Understands the dynamics of pressure/velocity.

They could do the same with a suppressor build. Just like reloading, you can screw the pooch if you do a half ass job. Not "so easy a caveman can do it" but Its not rocket science, design and results will vary. Can a shade tree builder get the same db reduction as those companies with large engineering staff? We may find out.

If the Bill passes, 80% suppressor kits will surely hit the market too.

Dan1612 · Jun 13, 2017

So what happens when bubba screws on a glorified flashlight 80% kit at the end of a 7" 556. LOL
Yeah, I think I'll stick with welded titanium, thanks. Haha

FrankT · Jun 13, 2017

2ndAmendmentShooting said:
not a party pooper, just a realist. Until repubs have the hard majority (61), absolutely nothing will get accomplished in 3.5 years. God forbid we lose the mid terms and the next presidential election.

What is more realistic is when the Obama appointed BATFE director steps down in a couple months due to mandatory retirement, and when Turk is appointed director, that he reverses 41F.

Tons are being done with 51 votes more than the last 2 POTUS after 5 mos, only the retailers are worried it will pass, everyone else is onboard.

John B. · Jun 13, 2017

Yeah I'm out.

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TURTLE · Jun 13, 2017

So what about home made suppresors? How would that work with the background check?

2ndAmendmentShooting · Jun 13, 2017

FrankT said:
Tons are being done with 51 votes more than the last 2 POTUS after 5 mos, only the retailers are worried it will pass, everyone else is onboard.

All the retailers I speak to hope it passes. We all hope it passes. Everyone is on board. The reality is that the POTUS, House and Senate have much more important issues to resolve at this time, and these two bills are insignificant in contrast to current events and issues. I have spoken with many people on the top of this issue, including CEO's and owners of 4 silencer companies, the owner of the largest silencer distributor in the US, the top lobbyist that is #1 on pushing HPA and all of them have echoed the same sentiments as my last message.

As for the quality and mass of manufacturers...there will always be a low and high end market, but you have pros and cons with each one. Passing of the HPA will not change this. The firearm industry still has $150 Hi Points and $3000 Dan Wesson's. The biggest issue with the lower end market with silencers with the tax stamp is people don't want to waste the $200 tax on a crap can. We are seeing this especially with Rebel and Black Aces Tactical. I have personally handled and shot both the Rebel 5.56 and 22 can and they are crap produced. We have already sent back all 3 cans on transfer due to manufacturing defects that led to baffle strikes. You know how many of the hundreds and hundreds of Dead Air and SilencerCo cans we have sent back for the same issues - Zilch. Maybe IF the tax stamp is eliminated, it would be worth it to take a chance on a $199 silencer.

2ndAmendmentShooting · Jun 13, 2017

TURTLE said:
So what about home made suppresors? How would that work with the background check?

probably the same way as current 80% lowers, 80% glock frames...no serial, no background check

TURTLE · Jun 13, 2017

2ndAmendmentShooting said:
probably the same way as current 80% lowers, 80% glock frames...no serial, no background check

So you could buy a Solvent trap , drill the holes and your good to go?

fl57caveman · Jun 13, 2017

Dan1612 said:
Meh! They're only flesh wounds. Plus, I don't want to give the federals $200, and be on their radar. They'll know where I live!!! They'll come and take my guns! So no, I'll just hang out and daydream of the day when me and my buddies can make suppressors out of paper clips, old chewing gum, and belly button lint. 嵐

you forgot the most important parts, a 2oz plastic Dixie cup and 4 cotton balls soaked in bacon grease...

Dan1612 · Jun 13, 2017

fl57caveman said:
you forgot the most important parts, a 2oz plastic Dixie cup and 4 cotton balls soaked in bacon grease...

That's way too safe, and it wouldn't let Darwin do his work. Lol
I'm just not particularly fond of sh!t exploding that close to me. But that's just me.

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