Short Barrel Shotgun

RussSurfs · Jun 24, 2016

I have seen discussions about short barreled rifles and the tax stamp required to own one. Does the same process apply to a short barreled shotguns? If you had a stamp could you have a short barreled shotgun.

nitro · Jun 24, 2016

You can have short barrel shotguns. They require a $5.00 tax stamp, as they are considered AOW.

Signal25 · Jun 24, 2016

nitro said:
You can have short barrel shotguns. They require a $5.00 tax stamp, as they are considered AOW.

Some true, some not true.
AOW Transfers are $5. (red stamp)
If you Form 1 a AOW it's still $200.

For an SBS it's $200 either way.

AOW does not equal SBS in any way shape or form. 2 completely different things.

Signal25 · Jun 24, 2016

OP Good cheap alternative is get you a pistol grip only shotgun and put a birdhead grip on it.
You can have a 14" barrel as long as you stay over 26" overall length. Just don't put a stock on it designed to be fired from the shoulder.
Ill have one of these for sale tomorrow at my yard sale.
Tons of info...
http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=88

Pic:

The Pitt · Jun 24, 2016

Signal25 said:
Some true, some not true.
AOW Transfers are $5. (red stamp)
If you Form 1 a AOW it's still $200.

For an SBS it's $200 either way.

AOW does not equal SBS in any way shape or form. 2 completely different things.

This is correct. You can own a SBS after completing the same Form 1 process as a SBR.

Signal25 · Jun 24, 2016

The Pitt said:
This is correct. You can own a SBS after completing the same Form 1 process as a SBR.

I never said he couldn't.

The Pitt · Jun 24, 2016

Signal25 said:
I never said he couldn't.

Sorry, did not mean to imply that you said he couldn't. That's why I said "This is correct".

I was answering his original post; "If you had a stamp could you have a short barreled shotgun."

Signal25 · Jun 24, 2016

My bad. I read what you said wrong.
My apologies

The Pitt · Jun 24, 2016

Signal25 said:
My bad. I read what you said wrong.
My apologies

All good brother!

This thread reminds me I want to SBS my 870 but I need a little convincing. Whos got pics?

donr101395 · Jun 24, 2016

The Pitt said:
All good brother!

This thread reminds me I want to SBS my 870 but I need a little convincing. Whos got pics?

Here is mine.

Kanaloa · Jun 25, 2016

Donr, how many will that SBS hold in the mag tube?

donr101395 · Jun 25, 2016

Kanaloa said:
Donr, how many will that SBS hold in the mag tube?

It's a standard 870 mag tube so it's 4+1. This one started out as a mid 60s Wingmaster I picked up for $150. The furniture was already on it and I did the barrel work myself so it's truly a low budget SBS. I would like to have a rem-choke installed just because I prefer improved cylinder over cylinder for the choke.

wildrider666 · Jun 25, 2016

$319 With Rebate Act fast if this fill the requirement. Has Dual pistol grips.

https://www.cdnnsports.com/870-express-12-18-3-bl-pg-pg.html#.V26oHK1MFoM

FrankT · Jun 25, 2016

My mossberg 88, I like it

nitro · Jun 25, 2016

I guess I don't understand. I have a short barreled shot gun from Mark Serbu Arms in Tampa, Fl. I paid a $5.00 stamp. Please explain. Why would you want to do a form 1, if it costs $200.00.

donr101395 · Jun 25, 2016

nitro said:
I guess I don't understand. I have a short barreled shot gun from Mark Serbu Arms in Tampa, Fl. I paid a $5.00 stamp. Please explain. Why would you want to do a form 1, if it costs $200.00.

You have an AOW and an AOW transfer tax is only $5. The tax cost to manufacture an AOW is $200. With an AOW stamp you can't put a shoulder stock on your AOW, but with a SBS stamp I can run a shoulder stock or a pistol grip.

nitro · Jun 25, 2016

Are you saying if I manufacture? I bought mine from the manufacturer, Mark Serbu. Does he have to pay the $200.00 per gun as a manufacturer? Thanks.

donr101395 · Jun 25, 2016

nitro said:
Are you saying if I manufacture? I bought mine from the manufacturer, Mark Serbu. Does he have to pay the $200.00 per gun as a manufacturer? Thanks.

Yea, if you manufacture on a form1 you have to pay the $200. Business manufacturers like Serbu pay an annual special occupational tax as part of their FFL and manufacturing licensing.

nitro · Jun 25, 2016

I see. Well, I appreciate your clearing that up for me. Obviously, earlier I spoke too soon. I'll try to hold my mouth, next time. Thanks you Don, for your quick responses.

donr101395 · Jun 25, 2016

nitro said:
I see. Well, I appreciate your clearing that up for me. Obviously, earlier I spoke too soon. I'll try to hold my mouth, next time. Thanks you Don, for your quick responses.

No worries, sometimes this stuff gets confusing.

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