Glock 1st gen question.

Z28931 · Aug 27, 2014

I have a trade offer for one of my rifles involving a glock 21 gen 1. I've never owned a glock but I have picked up a few things about them in the past year or so. My understanding is that the main difference in the different generations refer to the grips ( if I'm wrong please educate me). My main question on a gen 1 glock 21 is what is the absolute newest that it can be? When was the gen 1 discontinued? My concerns are the gun being worn out, especially the barrel. I haven't seen the gun in person, but looking at the pictures I wS sent it looks like a brand new gun. Any insight will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Derrick

SAWMAN · Aug 27, 2014

If this is indeed a Gen 1 gun,in great condition,it would be worth some money to Glock collectors. It would not have the finger grooves. It would not have the thumb rest. It would not have the LCI. And others ............

If any parts were worn,sending it back to Glock,they would fix them for little money or free. Swoop that gun up if it is <$600. in trade value. --- SAWMAN
EDIT To Add: TJ might be right in his below. I believe that they made a Gen 1 Glock 20 but a 21 ........ ??

TennJeep1618 · Aug 27, 2014

I'm pretty sure they're is no such thing as a gen 1 Glock 21. I want to say they only made the 17 and possibly the 19 as gen 1's.

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FUPAGUNT · Aug 27, 2014

Yep. Glock only made 17, 18, and 19 for the 1st Gen guns.

Django · Aug 27, 2014

I don't believe there are Gen 1 21's. Gen 1 Glock 17's were produced until 1988 I believe. At any rate Gen 1's had no finger grooves.

Z28931 · Aug 27, 2014

Here are pictures. What the hell is it?

TennJeep1618 · Aug 27, 2014

Gen 3

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FUPAGUNT · Aug 27, 2014

Gen 3. I wouldn't pay over 500 and that would be if it had upgrades. $475 tops if stock. Fine shooting 45 though

Django · Aug 27, 2014

FUPAGUNT said:
Gen 3. I wouldn't pay over 500 and that would be if it had upgrades. Fine shooting 45 though

Yeppper.

TennJeep1618 · Aug 27, 2014

I would also recommend handling it to see how it feels. I was able to shoot my 21 fine, but my 21SF feels MUCH better. I have "medium" hands, fwiw.

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FUPAGUNT · Aug 27, 2014

TennJeep1618 said:
I would also recommend handling it to see how it feels. I was able to shoot my 21 fine, but my 21SF feels MUCH better. I have "medium" hands, fwiw.

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Yes the standard 21 is not for one with small dick beaters. I have extra large meat hooks and even my gen 3 feels pretty bulky.

Z28931 · Aug 27, 2014

I have fairly large hands. I think I would be coming out on top trading for this one. There's no cash involved.

Stagman · Aug 28, 2014

FUPAGUNT said:
small dick beaters

:lol::lol::lol: I have never heard that phrase before.

SAWMAN · Aug 28, 2014

One question -> does the frame and the slide have the same serno ?? --- SAWMAN

Mr. Katanga · Aug 28, 2014

Another thing to look for is if the frame serial number is a metal tag under the barrel and in front of the trigger guard or if its plastic, I know the first batch of glocks imported (think it was G17s) had a plastic serial number because it was one of the first polymer pistols and the ATF demanded that they make a metal serial number plate thinking it would be easy to change numbers, a friend had one of those and I think he got a lot of money for it from a glock collector, not sure if the 45s were the same but something to look for.

TennJeep1618 · Aug 28, 2014

Mr. Katanga said:
Another thing to look for is if the frame serial number is a metal tag under the barrel and in front of the trigger guard or if its plastic, I know the first batch of glocks imported (think it was G17s) had a plastic serial number because it was one of the first polymer pistols and the ATF demanded that they make a metal serial number plate thinking it would be easy to change numbers, a friend had one of those and I think he got a lot of money for it from a glock collector, not sure if the 45s were the same but something to look for.

Judging from the picture, it looks to have a metal tag.

dead-bird · Aug 29, 2014

I believe there is some confusion as to exactly when the transition from two to three pin frames occurred.
I've heard of two pin gen 3s and 3 pin gen 2s.

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Mr. Katanga · Aug 29, 2014

Didn't see the pic thats a gen 3 for sure

dead-bird · Aug 29, 2014

Apparently G20/21/22/23 got 3-pin frames first with other models to follow. It had nothing to do with the "generation" of the frame but was due to the stresses on the locking block.

TackleberryMCS · Aug 29, 2014

SAWMAN said:
If this is indeed a Gen 1 gun,in great condition,it would be worth some money to Glock collectors. It would not have the finger grooves. It would not have the thumb rest. It would not have the LCI. And others ............

If any parts were worn,sending it back to Glock,they would fix them for little money or free. Swoop that gun up if it is <$600. in trade value. --- SAWMAN
EDIT To Add: TJ might be right in his below. I believe that they made a Gen 1 Glock 20 but a 21 ........ ??

I have a Glock 21 made in Nov. 1995. It is considered a Gen 1 Glock 21, as it is from the first deign of the Glock 21 which first came out in 1990. The frame (metal tag), slide, and barrel have matching serial numbers.It was upgraded many years ago before I bought it. It was outfitted with Trijicon adjustable night sights. The ejection port has been beveled and it has a full-length heavy duty Tungsten guide rod and spring. There is also a Higue slip-over grip installed since there are no finger grooves. It shoots great.

- 1st Generation has the smooth, rounded “pebble-grip”.
- 2nd Generation has the “Grenade-style” checkering with NO fingergrooves (see picture).
- 3rd Generation has BOTH fingergrooves AND accessory rail on the front dustcover.
- 4th Generation has the different pebble finish on the grip and a grip backstrap that can be changed out for different size hands.

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